So confused! Disco 4 reliable or not??

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bluesticky1 said:
Not the clearest post even after a reread Del! ;) the D2 I'm in jqs only just started having a few issues, and that's after 10 years and 80,000 miles. Until now it's been very reliable. Sure it's not been use that much, and has been regularly maintained, but I reckon that's pretty good. I drove it through 2 bad winters 30 miles each way, cross-country, to wok and it didn't miss a beat.
The only issues with it now are the fact that some parts are tired, and it didntmove for six months due to the previous owner's illness.
Whilst it's no Toyota Corolla, it's pretty reliable in my mind.
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Youre right.

My post might have made sense if I,d put in that he bought a brand new Discovery 4 !.

Sorry.


Del.
 
With that " small " detail left out of my post, it was not even relavent to the original thread !.

I think that the D2 TD5 is a graet vehicle.

It has a " foot in each camp ", in relation to mechanics/electrics, with lots of easy bolt on/off stuff, and a bit of, " troublesome " electrics.

The D3/4 has got many,many more electrically controlled systems, which when they go wrong, can be very difficult to fix.

However, the Landrover owner/enthusiasts will is very strong and resoursfull, and I,m sure, as time goes on and more of " us " start to own these later vehicles, the information and know how on how to fix these will become freely available.

Del.
 
Ah, now I get it!!! The electrics confuse the heck outta me even on the D2. Still, if you can afford a shiny new D4 I'm sure the 3 year warranty will help at first, then chop it in for a new one in 3 years time. I can but dream!!!
 
50 pence said:
With that " small " detail left out of my post, it was not even relavent to the original thread !.

I think that the D2 TD5 is a graet vehicle.

It has a " foot in each camp ", in relation to mechanics/electrics, with lots of easy bolt on/off stuff, and a bit of, " troublesome " electrics.

The D3/4 has got many,many more electrically controlled systems, which when they go wrong, can be very difficult to fix.

However, the Landrover owner/enthusiasts will is very strong and resoursfull, and I,m sure, as time goes on and more of " us " start to own these later vehicles, the information and know how on how to fix these will become freely available.

Del.
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May be for the old school car DIYer but we are moving on fast, everything in todays world is computor controlled, cars, buildings, trains and planes but when things go wrong it's very easy to find the reason and easy to rectify.
So i'm all for "electronics" and the functions they provide. :)
 
discool said:
May be for the old school car DIYer but we are moving on fast, everything in todays world is computor controlled, cars, buildings, trains and planes but when things go wrong it's very easy to find the reason and easy to rectify.
So i'm all for "electronics" and the functions they provide. :)
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I.ll tell my mate with the D4 to pass this on to the Landrover main dealer thats had his car in 4 times for the same fault !.

Del.
 
Electrics are not always the answer.

My mother in law took delivery of a 60 plate fiesta last week, to find the air con not working. Cue trip to Ford, who plug it in. Computer says relay needs replacing. Relay duly replaced, still not working and fault code now reads faulty earth in the ecu. This is replaced, only to show another fault. Puzzled (but very competent) mechanic rings Ford technical department (as they have to do - apparently not allowed discretion with the ecu) and is told to check all the wiring. Invesigations find a pinched wire indoor the sealed fuse box caused during manufacture. Wire replaced, and good as new.

My point is, the computer diagnostics were a complete bag of poo, and good old fashioned engineering won the day!!
 
And while I'm in the mood for a polemic, it's not just Landies that are "unreliable" these days. The other week every police BMW 530 in the country *had to be checked because the driver's seat mount was at risk of breaking away from tue floor. Loads have had to have plates welded in. And the Volvo D5 has a nasty habit of mixing diesel into the oil and causing all sorts of engine problems.

I think the general quality of design engineering has been reduced by a desire for efficiency and weight reduction. Things are being made too thin and with a view to more regular replacement. Whatever happened to good old fashined over-engineering???
 
Scruffyhippo said:
Not one for newer motors, although did drive a new Renault van for it's first 3 years, I'm not even sure who is building them these days (lost track).

If I could afford a new Disco I would buy a JCB Sitemaster :p
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Actually though about this reply today and it is not srictly true, if I had a lot of money to buy a car it would be a long wheelbase hard top defender :)
 
bluesticky1 said:
And while I'm in the mood for a polemic, it's not just Landies that are "unreliable" these days. The other week every police BMW 530 in the country *had to be checked because the driver's seat mount was at risk of breaking away from tue floor. Loads have had to have plates welded in. And the Volvo D5 has a nasty habit of mixing diesel into the oil and causing all sorts of engine problems.

I think the general quality of design engineering has been reduced by a desire for efficiency and weight reduction. Things are being made too thin and with a view to more regular replacement. Whatever happened to good old fashined over-engineering???
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Its got nothing to do with efficiency or weight reduction its down to COST and COST alone.
 
discool said:
May be for the old school car DIYer but we are moving on fast, everything in todays world is computor controlled, cars, buildings, trains and planes but when things go wrong it's very easy to find the reason and easy to rectify.
So i'm all for "electronics" and the functions they provide. :)
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Thats a bold statement discool, im assuming its based on the fact you are a mechanic who works on modern cars for a living?
 
oldskool said:
Thats a bold statement discool, im assuming its based on the fact you are a mechanic who works on modern cars for a living?
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When one now collects their vehicle at a main dealer one is sometimes told our "technician" is just finishing off your vehicle there's no mention of mechanic now just service technicians.

My occupation is in building management and life protection systems. Fault finding is just a matter of pluging a laptop in to find it, all faults are log'd and each card/device has an address/id. and as always repair is by replacement but I leave all that to my laptop techies to do. :D

And thats all they do unlike so called garage technicians who also have do the dirty bits, many skills master of none come to mind.
 
Excuse my ignorence M&E?
The likes off kwick-fit halfords employ fitters, stealers and most but not all indipendants such as myself employ mechanics/technicians.

1 We all know main dealer garages employ fitters these days as repair is by replacment "mechanics" are not now required .

2 when things go wrong it's very easy to find the reason and easy to rectify

Your words my friend not mine
 
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