Snow tyres

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donp38 said:
I run winter scorpions......really fab.
Had AT2 and really dreadful on a wet road......dry and snow...great...
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I'm surprised you find the At2's bad in the wet. I find they are OK. Definitely much better than the old Coopers I had on previously. What tyre pressures did you run them at? I run mine with 1.9 Bar in the front and 3.3 Bar in the rear.
 
I found Vredstein good but noisy.That was an old tread pattern though so probably different now. I tried Scorpion STs on mine and had no issues with them.

Never needed anything other than normal road tyres in British winters and that includes trekking all through the Peaks in the white stuff. I'm currently on Nexens and although road tyres they seem to do well on everything except clay-like mud where they start spinning.

I found General Grabbers to be a good all rounder. Not seen or tried the AT3 in snow yet but I doubt they'll be many issues.
 
Your using a range rover in the snow ???. Bloody hell i dont even like using mine in the summer incase it brakes down never mind in the winter !!:p:p
 
Grrrrrr said:
I found Vredstein good but noisy.That was an old tread pattern though so probably different now. I tried Scorpion STs on mine and had no issues with them.

Never needed anything other than normal road tyres in British winters and that includes trekking all through the Peaks in the white stuff. I'm currently on Nexens and although road tyres they seem to do well on everything except clay-like mud where they start spinning.

I found General Grabbers to be a good all rounder. Not seen or tried the AT3 in snow yet but I doubt they'll be many issues.
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Our normal winter here in France is probably equivalent to a very bad winter in the UK. And the problem is it can change so rapidly. I have had occasions where I have had lunch out on the terrace one day, then knee deep in snow the next and that is no exaggeration. We also live right out in the sticks. Where you can drive the kids to school and back and probably not pass another vehicle. So if your not careful you can easily get caught out. When I lived in the UK there was no such thing as All season tyres. I only got caught out once in the UK in icy conditions where All the traffic couldn't get up a icy hill. Snow tyres would probably not made much difference as they get caught out in ice also. Here in France most people have winter tyres so if you don't have them you will be the one holding everyone up. Where the mother in-law lives after a heavy snow fall even the snow plough couldn't get up the track to her place. The Defender only gets up there if you have a good run at it. ( Great fun) The snow flies everywhere, its like being in a speed boat. Getting up there is only half the problem, the worst part is trying to get down, especially if there is ice under the snow. Normal road tires wouldn't cut it.
 
mikescuba said:
Getting up there is only half the problem, the worst part is trying to get down, especially if there is ice under the snow. Normal road tires wouldn't cut it.
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No **** there. Getting up is easy. On the way back down I've wedged the front wheel in the gutter against the bank and then in LOW 1 eased away from the bank and then back into it and eased my way back down. Once you start sliding you're not going to stop. Defender has diff lock which the P38 doesn't. If you're on the seriously silly stuff you're going to need Airlockers fitted - £1500 or so from Ashcrofts.
 
Grrrrrr said:
I found General Grabbers to be a good all rounder. Not seen or tried the AT3 in snow yet but I doubt they'll be many issues.
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Only just joined this thread & found it very interesting.

I've got General's TR's on my RRC - I fitted them when I discovered the standard fit Michelins were too old to be safe, also the tread pattern is very similar & I've always tried to keep the old girl original. I believe the TR's were a factory fit on Defenders for a while & have read that they perform well in snow but I've yet to find out, not that we get much of the white stuff in this corner of East Anglia. The TR's seem to suit the car insofar as it rides nice & handles well, especially as it has a retrofitted factory handling kit.
 
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Well if you take note of the label and look at stopping distance...you will see they are not good on a wet road...definitely compared to a Scorpion.
I changed to Scorpions and it simply transferred the car.
Best wishes.
 
donp38 said:
Well if you take note of the label and look at stopping distance...you will see they are not good on a wet road...definitely compared to a Scorpion.

Strangely enough, possibly because mine is not a daily driver, I've not needed to drive much I the wet so I can't comment. Next time I do venture out in the rain I'll get the brake pedal some welly see how they perform - could be interesting with no ABS :eek:
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