Snow/ice traction

".boB" wrote:
> Good tires and track-lock (ls) differential will be nearly as good as
> 4x4 in all but the worst conditions.

"The Ancient One" <[email protected]> writes:
> I used to think that to, until I bought my first 4x4. It's not even close,
> yes I can make it to town in horrible winter conditions in a two wheel
> drive, but it takes far more skill and concentration, with 4x4 I just plow
> on through without worrying about it.

I grew up in Denver and still visit family there as frequently as I can
manage. I never cease to be amazed at how many 4x4s I see each winter
stuck somewhere because the driver thought having a 4x4 meant that he or
she could just "plow on through without worrying about it".

I suppose you didn't really mean that literally, though. Some skill,
concentration, and common sense [*] is still required when the road
conditions are bad.

Eric

[*] That's an oxymoron, unfortunately.

>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Smith <[email protected]> writes:

Eric> ".boB" wrote:
>> Good tires and track-lock (ls) differential will be nearly as
>> good as 4x4 in all but the worst conditions.

Eric> "The Ancient One" <[email protected]> writes:
>> I used to think that to, until I bought my first 4x4. It's not
>> even close, yes I can make it to town in horrible winter
>> conditions in a two wheel drive, but it takes far more skill
>> and concentration, with 4x4 I just plow on through without
>> worrying about it.

Eric> I grew up in Denver and still visit family there as
Eric> frequently as I can manage. I never cease to be amazed at
Eric> how many 4x4s I see each winter stuck somewhere because the
Eric> driver thought having a 4x4 meant that he or she could just
Eric> "plow on through without worrying about it".

Eric> I suppose you didn't really mean that literally, though.
Eric> Some skill, concentration, and common sense [*] is still
Eric> required when the road conditions are bad.

Eric> Eric

Eric> [*] That's an oxymoron, unfortunately.

I suppose Bob meant that you can forget conditions a bit when you used to
be OK in 2 wheels drive, you have the right tires, and you now switch
to 4X4 ... It does make you feel relaxed, although for sure you *need*
skill, concentration and a lot of common sense.

Feels the same myself with a BJ42 whenever I engage the front wheels
after it becomes a bit difficult for 4X2 uphills.

--

Herve Regad-Pellagru

Hoare: Il y a 2 manieres de faire une conception de logiciel fiable:
la premiere est de la faire tellement simple qu'il n'y a, a
l'evidence, aucune faille, et la 2 eme est de la faire tellement
compliquee qu'il n'y a auncune faille evidente.

"Herve Regad-Pellagru" <regadpellagru@_NOSPAM_free.fr> wrote in message
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>>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Smith <[email protected]> writes:
>
> Eric> ".boB" wrote:
> >> Good tires and track-lock (ls) differential will be nearly as
> >> good as 4x4 in all but the worst conditions.
>
> Eric> "The Ancient One" <[email protected]> writes:
> >> I used to think that to, until I bought my first 4x4. It's not
> >> even close, yes I can make it to town in horrible winter
> >> conditions in a two wheel drive, but it takes far more skill
> >> and concentration, with 4x4 I just plow on through without
> >> worrying about it.
>
> Eric> I grew up in Denver and still visit family there as
> Eric> frequently as I can manage. I never cease to be amazed at
> Eric> how many 4x4s I see each winter stuck somewhere because the
> Eric> driver thought having a 4x4 meant that he or she could just
> Eric> "plow on through without worrying about it".
>
> Eric> I suppose you didn't really mean that literally, though.
> Eric> Some skill, concentration, and common sense [*] is still
> Eric> required when the road conditions are bad.
>
> Eric> Eric
>
> Eric> [*] That's an oxymoron, unfortunately.
>
> I suppose Bob meant that you can forget conditions a bit when you used to
> be OK in 2 wheels drive, you have the right tires, and you now switch
> to 4X4 ... It does make you feel relaxed, although for sure you *need*
> skill, concentration and a lot of common sense.
>
> Feels the same myself with a BJ42 whenever I engage the front wheels
> after it becomes a bit difficult for 4X2 uphills.
>
> --

Quite true, though it was I instead of bob who said it.