Snow chains.

dieseldog69 · Apr 17, 2019

marjon said:
Good job.
Wow not cheap for all 4 wheels though

J

Look at it like this, how much is the fine for not having them? Then look at the cost of cheapie chains as a "get you by" and then the cost of a tow truck when they fall to bits.

£400 starts to sound rather cheap when the fines can be the same and a tow truck can cost you the double and then some in the inconvenience of not getting where you are going.

marjon · Apr 17, 2019

I agree, we would rather at least to start on the right side of the law

For 4 wheels I did a quick and it’s over £500. But (check laws for Norway) we only require 2 wheels with chains here.
But I guess now you have located you can check around for maybe a better deal, like when the sun is shining.
Last time we were in Norway they generally ran studded tyres.

As I said we cover all 4 for extra (not saying you need too).

They gonna be heavy too, eat your weetabix before you test fit

.

J

dieseldog69 · Apr 17, 2019

marjon said:
I agree, we would rather at least to start on the right side of the law

For 4 wheels I did a quick and it’s over £500. But (check laws for Norway) we only require 2 wheels with chains here.
But I guess now you have located you can check around for maybe a better deal, like when the sun is shining.
Last time we were in Norway they generally ran studded tyres.

As I said we cover all 4 for extra (not saying you need too).

They gonna be heavy too, eat your weetabix before you test fit.

J

I would rather have 4, minimum is 2 but I look at it as a bit of a safety blanket, if you has 4 and lose one then at least you still has the legal minimum requirement and can still keep driving.

Reversable too so for sure they are heavy as a heavy thing can be, I'm guessing that they might throw the wheels outta balance too

Best I drive sensibly when they're fitted

marjon · Apr 17, 2019

I prefer the 4 option, steering and still drive not having 1 or other and then find the back comes round to meet ya, or the corner turns into a straight through hedge

Reversible? Don’t quote me but think that just means straight chain I.E no teeth.
Marketing ploy maybe

If you have chains on in anger I would imagine wheel balance the least of your worries at10-15mph.
Although we have followed dicks at 40-45 on ifish tarmac and they got chains on

cause they couldn’t be bothered to stop and take them off, soon backed away from them.

J

Chalky. · Apr 18, 2019

dieseldog69 said:
Just finkin out loud @Gottschalk yo being a lumberjack an all, know any forestry folk for such equipment.

Hi matey, unfortunately not sorry. That's more on the industrial side of forestry that I'm not to familiar with, sorry bud

dieseldog69 · Apr 18, 2019

Gottschalk said:
Hi matey, unfortunately not sorry. That's more on the industrial side of forestry that I'm not to familiar with, sorry bud

Since describing you as a "lumberjack" I can't get this out of my head

Chalky. · Apr 18, 2019

dieseldog69 said:
Since describing you as a "lumberjack" I can't get this out of my head

... My life....

Badger · Apr 18, 2019

4 is best. We spent a few nights up on the moors during the heavy snow this year and on the steep roads, we tried without and got no where, then with 2 and still got no where but with 4 it was a breeze. We even towed out another car with a set on.

When you need them they’re worth their weight in gold.

I was lucky as someone had come back from abroad, never used them and said they didn’t want them, and as I was looking to do Norway & Sweden I bought them,

Advertise wanting to buy and during the year you’ll see them crop up now and then.

dieseldog69 · Apr 18, 2019

Badger said:
4 is best. We spent a few nights up on the moors during the heavy snow this year and on the steep roads, we tried without and got no where, then with 2 and still got no where but with 4 it was a breeze. We even towed out another car with a set on.

When you need them they’re worth their weight in gold.

I was lucky as someone had come back from abroad, never used them and said they didn’t want them, and as I was looking to do Norway & Sweden I bought them,

Advertise wanting to buy and during the year you’ll see them crop up now and then.

I need huge ones, I saw loads for 235/85 r16 and cheap but nothing cheap for chains for my size tyres

Badger · Apr 18, 2019

Mine were only cheap because I was lucky to get them 2nd hand. They’re normally £500+ new.

What tyres do you have that are that large and are they snow tyres?

If you travel to Norway between November and ( I think ) April without proper snow tyres ( ie stamped as such ) then you can face a fine as it’s illegal.

Have you considered having a secondary set of snow tyres with a 2nd pair of good chains for the trip? Might prove to be cheaper than buying a new set of chains for your current tyres.

dieseldog69 · Apr 18, 2019

Badger said:
Mine were only cheap because I was lucky to get them 2nd hand. They’re normally £500+ new.

What tyres do you have that are that large and are they snow tyres?

If you travel to Norway between November and ( I think ) April without proper snow tyres ( ie stamped as such ) then you can face a fine as it’s illegal.

Have you considered having a secondary set of snow tyres with a 2nd pair of good chains for the trip? Might prove to be cheaper than buying a new set of chains for your current tyres.

They are M+S rated as far as I know, will triple check tomorrow.

Hicap phill · Apr 19, 2019

May be marked as M&S but should/must have the picture of a mountain. Check what the locals use.
Have you searched for any users in Iceland? (There is a disco owner on this forum)They have big tyres but may not use chains.

Badger · Apr 22, 2019

dieseldog69 said:
They are M+S rated as far as I know, will triple check tomorrow.

M&S means bugger all tbh, they need to be specific snow tyres with the mountain symbol. Any aggressive pattern tyre will be useless in cold & snowy conditions.
My insta turbos are m&s stamped but I wouldn’t go anywhere near snow in them as the tread is too aggressive for traction in snowy conditions.

Nokian Hakka lt2’s are a good bet, consider fitting them to a secondary spare set of rims and carry a pair of snow chains. A good condition proper snow tyre and chain will get you out of most, if not all, scenarios.

norseman · Apr 22, 2019

Badger said:
A good condition proper snow tyre and chain will get you out of most, if not all, scenarios.

Forgive my ignorance but does not the fitment of chains negate the advantages of 'proper' snow tyres

nb: the owners' manual of my RRC states that chains should be fitted to the rear tyres only.

dieseldog69 · Apr 23, 2019

norseman said:
Forgive my ignorance but does not the fitment of chains negate the advantages of 'proper' snow tyres
nb: the owners' manual of my RRC states that chains should be fitted to the rear tyres only.

It does, and on both accounts.

It has something to do with brake lines.

I was looking at truck tyres for proper winter tyres in my size, seems very expensive

Badger · Apr 23, 2019

norseman said:
Forgive my ignorance but does not the fitment of chains negate the advantages of 'proper' snow tyres
nb: the owners' manual of my RRC states that chains should be fitted to the rear tyres only.

Snow tyres are designed for everyday road conditions, chains are to be used in specific conditions in which grip is lost ( ice etc )

Snow chains aren’t meant to be used all the time, only to get you out of a tight spot. Once clear, you remove them and continue on.

norseman · Apr 23, 2019

Badger said:
Snow tyres are designed for everyday road conditions, chains are to be used in specific conditions in which grip is lost ( ice etc ) Snow chains aren’t meant to be used all the time, only to get you out of a tight spot. Once clear, you remove them and continue on.

Thank you for your answer.
I've never used chains on any vehicle but have been impressed by Autosox on the drive wheels of a Mondeo. The worst part is how filthy your sleeves can get from the muck under the wheel-arches whilst fitting the 'sox'

Badger · Apr 23, 2019

norseman said:
Thank you for your answer.
I've never used chains on any vehicle but have been impressed by Autosox on the drive wheels of a Mondeo. The worst part is how filthy your sleeves can get from the muck under the wheel-arches whilst fitting the 'sox'

I know the feeling...I have pewag snow chains, which are made by an Austrian company and when fitting, you find yourself on your knees on the ice and snow although they are well thought out in their box's.

You can tell this as when you're in need of the chains, the instructions are on a plastic sheet with gloves included in the kit...someone in the company remembered that when you need the chains, you're likely to be in a situation which requires some clear, large print, waterproof instructions!

Chalky. · Apr 24, 2019

dieseldog69 said:
I need huge ones, I saw loads for 235/85 r16 and cheap but nothing cheap for chains for my size tyres

Mind posting any links bud? I run that size tyre and wouldn't mind a pair of chains if we get any snow, just for fun really!!

dieseldog69 · Apr 24, 2019

Gottschalk said:
Mind posting any links bud? I run that size tyre and wouldn't mind a pair of chains if we get any snow, just for fun really!!

Cheap ones https://www.tyres-guru.co.uk/snow-chain-product-detail?id=620398&width=235&profile=85&size=16

Expensive ones https://www.tyres-guru.co.uk/snow-chain-product-detail?id=37018&width=235&profile=85&size=16

I saw others on various websites but didn't book mark the sites

only saved this one as they were the cheapest for the 235/85 r16 size

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