Smoke from exhaust and diagnostics communication problem

scottf323f · Apr 30, 2020

Mark Piercy said:
Your more than welcome, I hope the old injectors were tested before they recommended new ones as it seems your injector money could have been wasted without proof of the old ones failing. Unfortunately you haven't been able to find the correct person who can help. It's a shame we're all on lock down as there are some very good members on here and maybe some close by who would be happy to drop by and help. Cake and beer pays in dividends. Good luck with diagnosing the problem.

yeah the injectors were tested via a leak off kit. It pointed to one injector significantly worse than others and another just close behind. I made the decision to change them all for a piece of mind that they are covered, and to be honest, by the time I got a decent trade in rate for the old ones, it didn’t work out too bad. But at the time, I was obviously influenced by the mechanics optimism and thought that it was the problem.
They are lovely cars, but regret buying it to be honest. You obviously need a few quid saved for not if....but when things go wrong.
Thanks

Mark Piercy · Apr 30, 2020

We all agree they are great machines with plenty of character but demand more repairs than most and it is 15yrs old to boot. It all depends on how much you love/value it and can justify owning it. It is solely your choice and your feelings that'll determine the outcome of this adventure

scottf323f · Apr 30, 2020

Mark Piercy said:
We all agree they are great machines with plenty of character but demand more repairs than most and it is 15yrs old to boot. It all depends on how much you love/value it and can justify owning it. It is solely your choice and your feelings that'll determine the outcome of this adventure

thanks for all your advice. I want to keep it. Just trying to do what I can myself at this stage. At least find what the problem is then determine the cost to repair. Just hard at this stage without a firm idea of what it is.

Mark Piercy · Apr 30, 2020

scottf323f said:
thanks for all your advice. I want to keep it. Just trying to do what I can myself at this stage. At least find what the problem is then determine the cost to repair. Just hard at this stage without a firm idea of what it is.

Agreed, just keep pushing on and you'll crack this nut. Dad says, can't think can't beat you!

Shut up dad....

Datatek · Apr 30, 2020

Range Rovers are not cars they are a hobby, if you cannot DIY they will empty your bank account in record time. The L322 electronics were designed by a mad man, to say the electronics are unreliable is like paying them a compliment.

Grrrrrr · May 1, 2020

I cannot recall when the diag changed on the L322 but details will be on the Storey Wilson website. Many people recommend tge GAP iid tool for later models. A standard OBD2 tool should read engine codes. You can get an ELM327 Bluetooth jobby that links to Torque on your smartphone for very little money.

The OBD will have a fuse somewhere. Worth checking. Also, check pins are clean with no green. Unfortunately, if it is CANBUS it can be a sod, as Datatek implied earlier.

Does RAVE still cover your model or is it a Topix job?

Datatek · May 1, 2020

Grrrrrr said:
I cannot recall when the diag changed on the L322 but details will be on the Storey Wilson website. Many people recommend tge GAP iid tool for later models. A standard OBD2 tool should read engine codes. You can get an ELM327 Bluetooth jobby that links to Torque on your smartphone for very little money.

The OBD will have a fuse somewhere. Worth checking. Also, check pins are clean with no green. Unfortunately, if it is CANBUS it can be a sod, as Datatek implied earlier.

Does RAVE still cover your model or is it a Topix job?

I don't think any standard OBD tool will read the engine codes on that engine, the only one they work on is the Rover V8.

Grrrrrr · May 1, 2020

Datatek said:
I don't think any standard OBD tool will read the engine codes on that engine, the only one they work on is the Rover V8.

Even an 05 plate? You might be right. I'd have thought it would have been OBD2 compliant by tgen but maybe it was 2006 for diesels?

scottf323f · May 1, 2020

Grrrrrr said:
I cannot recall when the diag changed on the L322 but details will be on the Storey Wilson website. Many people recommend tge GAP iid tool for later models. A standard OBD2 tool should read engine codes. You can get an ELM327 Bluetooth jobby that links to Torque on your smartphone for very little money.

The OBD will have a fuse somewhere. Worth checking. Also, check pins are clean with no green. Unfortunately, if it is CANBUS it can be a sod, as Datatek implied earlier.

Does RAVE still cover your model or is it a Topix job?

Hi,
Fuse is ok, I’ve check all fuses I can find for pretty much everything. the contacts of the port are clean and look perfect.

You will have to educate me a bit with regards to RAVE and topix ?

Anyone have any opinions or advice on the “icarsoft” tool would be any good? Currently around £130 on eBay?

thanks

pete12345 · May 1, 2020

There's a company called gendan automotive that sent me an email this morning saying they make a diagnostic tool but I've not used it or even know if it works but you could check

RangeRoller dt · May 1, 2020

Rave is a Lego instructions on how to build a RR. Sort of like a Haynes manual on steroids.
RAVE is the name of the one for P38s, later Landys use one called Topix that you need a subscription for.

@Mark Piercy has icarsoft hed know

Datatek · May 1, 2020

RangeRoller dt said:
Rave is a Lego instructions on how to build a RR. Sort of like a Haynes manual on steroids.
RAVE is the name of the one for P38s, later Landys use one called Topix that you need a subscription for.

@Mark Piercy has icarsoft hed know

RAVE also covers the Defender and early L322, at least one of my copies does

scottf323f · May 1, 2020

Sounds like this RAVE is something I need. How would I go about getting hold of a copy?

thanks in advance

RangeRoller dt · May 1, 2020

Don’t ask me I can’t get copy myself.

You have to be careful with RAVE can be bit sketchy but you’ll get used to using it while not trusting it.

scottf323f · May 1, 2020

RangeRoller dt said:
Don’t ask me I can’t get copy myself.

You have to be careful with RAVE can be bit sketchy but you’ll get used to using it while not trusting it.

Where is the usual place to buy it? I am unfamiliar with it.

thanks

Grrrrrr · May 1, 2020

scottf323f said:
Where is the usual place to buy it? I am unfamiliar with it.

thanks

Don't buy it! Check the Technical Section. @Wazzajnr put a copy in his Dropbox folder.

brianp38dse · May 1, 2020

Have a look in here for Rave and Topix
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-ro...lus-other-useful-info-on-range-rovers.322195/

Mark Piercy · May 2, 2020

RangeRoller dt said:
Rave is a Lego instructions on how to build a RR. Sort of like a Haynes manual on steroids.
RAVE is the name of the one for P38s, later Landys use one called Topix that you need a subscription for.

@Mark Piercy has icarsoft hed know

I've an icarsoft for volvo and Saab and an autel mx808 for other cars but it is limited on the lr products and will do some tasks but mainly 2006 onwards.
A dedicated diagnostic tool goes a long way on these machines. There is no such thing as a cheap "useful" diag suite I'm afraid.

scottf323f · May 2, 2020

Mark Piercy said:
I've an icarsoft for volvo and Saab and an autel mx808 for other cars but it is limited on the lr products and will do some tasks but mainly 2006 onwards.
A dedicated diagnostic tool goes a long way on these machines. There is no such thing as a cheap "useful" diag suite I'm afraid.

thanks for the info. I figured that was the case. Kinda get what you pay for I suppose. I think it will help, because at least if I can get the diag tool to at least communicate with the car, I can then book it into the garage, and they will obviously have the proper kit. It will save me going back and forth to them.

I’ve taken a look at the rave link, but I have a Mac, and can’t seem to get it to work. I will dig out an old windows laptop and see if I have any luck.

thanks for all the help so far guys

Grrrrrr · May 3, 2020

Mark Piercy said:
I've an icarsoft for volvo and Saab and an autel mx808 for other cars but it is limited on the lr products and will do some tasks but mainly 2006 onwards.
A dedicated diagnostic tool goes a long way on these machines. There is no such thing as a cheap "useful" diag suite I'm afraid.

Storey Wilson's stuff is a hundred or so quid. Just needs a standard OBD2 cable. Allcomms or Can4D. I had a copy on my laptop until my laptop died.

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