serioiusly silly question

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Ryder

Ryder

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ok... I have a question that I am sure will bring a smile to many faces. However I am not adverse to a little ribbing so i thought this was the best place to ask.

Reading land rover mags and TOR, a great deal of attention is given to hill descent assistance.. which I belive refers to the amount of engine braking available when descending a steep incline. Why is this important? Surely if you are descending a little too fast it is a simple question of braking?

I realise that there is a simple answer to this but since I am ignorant o such matters... you're the guys to set me straight!
 
No NO NO NO!!!:eek: :eek: You don't brake coming down a steep hill. If you do there's a very good chance that you'll lock yer wheels and start to slide. If the front wheels lock first, the back end will slew round, putting you sideways on a steep slope and moving fast. At this point you can kiss your arse and roof line goodbye. Because your about to roll.:eek: Always feet off the pedals and if you start to slide a quick blip of the throttle should restore traction. if it doesn't steer your way out of trouble but don't depress the clutch or brake pedal. and try to keep the bonnet pointed downhill at all costs.
 
Ryder said:
ok... I have a question that I am sure will bring a smile to many faces. However I am not adverse to a little ribbing so i thought this was the best place to ask.

Reading land rover mags and TOR, a great deal of attention is given to hill descent assistance.. which I belive refers to the amount of engine braking available when descending a steep incline. Why is this important? Surely if you are descending a little too fast it is a simple question of braking?

I realise that there is a simple answer to this but since I am ignorant o such matters... you're the guys to set me straight!
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Well I'm just a learner and getting stuck all over the place at the minute, however I will give you what I know.

If you press the brake you lock it up and it skids, if it starts to slide on decent then give it a tad of throttle to take it out of the skid then resume as before. If you stall the fooker going up hill then the same applies get it in reverse gear right away.

I think it's because of the brake bias, ie more braking force to the front wheels than the rear, but I cant confirm that.

As I said I'm an amature at the minute.
 
got 3 years off roading and i nearly rolled mine on a failed hill climb the other night cause as a fool i touched the brake while selecting reverse, quickly on the throttle got it back just in a nick of time.
 
Many thanks for the info. See it all makes sense now! You can probably tell that I haven't tried anything too steep yet.

Gently gently methinks

Ryder
 
I dont think that is a silly question.
if it involves a risk to your safety then ask away. I'm sure everybody on here would help with any advice.
 
Ryder, 'Hill Descent Control' is a braking system invented by Land Rover, initially for Freelander 1, because it didn't have a low range gearbox. It applies the brakes automatically and releases them if the wheel locks, to give a controlled descent. It is now across the LR range and has been uprated to give different hill descent speeds, dependent on gear selected, so 1st gear with HDC will give a slower descent than 2ns gear with HDC. When BMW owned LR, they nicked the system for X5 & X3 and when Ford took over, they nicked it for Volvo.
The rule still is for steep off road hill descents, 1st gear low box, feet off everything, with or without HDC. Only without HDC if traction is lost and wheels are sliding, would you accelerate slightly to regain traction and match wheel speed with descent speed.
 
Ryder said:
ok... I have a question that I am sure will bring a smile to many faces. However I am not adverse to a little ribbing so i thought this was the best place to ask.

Reading land rover mags and TOR, a great deal of attention is given to hill descent assistance.. which I belive refers to the amount of engine braking available when descending a steep incline. Why is this important? Surely if you are descending a little too fast it is a simple question of braking?

I realise that there is a simple answer to this but since I am ignorant o such matters... you're the guys to set me straight!
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Forget the rest, what kind of ribbin ye after?????? ;)
 
and when it's going too fast for the gear, or engine speed is too high what would i do then?
tis a serious question, thanks
 
ibbo said:
and when it's going too fast for the gear, or engine speed is too high what would i do then?
tis a serious question, thanks
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Nothing! You're not using the throttle, so you're not revving the nuts off of it. When you're using engine braking you can expect the engine to whine a bit. You're not doing any harm, but you might want to try the next gear up next time you're on that slope cuz you got it wrong the first time. ;)
 
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