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Is there a difference between 2A and 3 wheel rims?
My dad might have lost mine so i need to find some new ones :(
I know series 3 wheel nuts are bigger but don't know about the wheels.

Gutted :(
 
Think bog std series wheels are all pretty much the same, 88 rims were/are narrower than 109 ones, there are different offsets for the early 109s and of course the wide ones that everyone wants
I would bet a whole pint there were many different part number/variations over the years, but essentially all will fit.
 
lynall said:
Think bog std series wheels are all pretty much the same, 88 rims were/are narrower than 109 ones, there are different offsets for the early 109s and of course the wide ones that everyone wants
I would bet a whole pint there were many different part number/variations over the years, but essentially all will fit.
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Thanks, when you say 88 are narrower, any ideas what they should be? I'd like to get the right ones to fit rather than bodge and make do
 
kermit_rr said:
Looks like I'm after 5" number 231601
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The narrow rims with 6.00 tires look really good on an 88
The biggest downside of 6.00 tires is the clearance under the differentials is severely reduced, I have been stuck a few times during the summer when the diffs have ground out on rockhard mud between the tire tracks
 
Don't waste time on the 5" unless you are rivet counting. There is almost no tyre choice, even the 5.5 are marginal on tyres. I would strongly recommend tubeless rims as it makes getting tyres a lot easier but that's a personal choice. A lot of people run Defender steel wheels as a lot get taken off for alloys so you can pick up a set easily. S2A are 9/16 BSF and S3 are M16, the wheels fit, but the M16 studs are much stronger, I swapped my S2A from BSF to M16 to get the stronger studs and bigger nuts. The BSF are threaded into the hub and get pulled out by tyre shops so do them up yourself, the M16 are headed and can take 70 lb ft no trouble.
 
On my S3 88 I think are the 5.5 wheels I’ve got 7.5xR16 on , look about right not too narrow or outrageously wide
But Robs very right about the lack of tyre choice but as long as they make Avon rangemasters I’ll be happy , i perversely like the idea of tubes in too for some reason
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Appreciate what you say, I'm not rivet counting as such, I'm not looking for the'right' washers and all the nut flats to be at the top etc, but it is very original apart from the respray i did in the nineties and I'd like to keep it as original as i can, i like the look of the small narrow wheels.
That said I've driven it for years with range rover wheels on as they were a straight swap and the Michelin's transformed the ride and handling! I'd still like to put it back to how it was :)
 
lynall said:
The narrow rims with 6.00 tires look really good on an 88
The biggest downside of 6.00 tires is the clearance under the differentials is severely reduced, I have been stuck a few times during the summer when the diffs have ground out on rockhard mud between the tire tracks
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Been thinking about going back to 6.00 x 16s, but on balance, going off the idea.

We very rarely go off road, but 6.00 x 16s reduce the top speed a bit compared to 7.50 x 16.
 
steve2286w said:
On my S3 88 I think are the 5.5 wheels I’ve got 7.5xR16 on , look about right not too narrow or outrageously wide
But Robs very right about the lack of tyre choice but as long as they make Avon rangemasters I’ll be happy , i perversely like the idea of tubes in too for some reason View attachment 253309
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I like the look of Avons on a series, they might be hard and crap handling, but, well, it's a series 2.
I remember when i first started to notice 'car' tyres become more popular.. i just thought they looked silly at the time, though appreciate the advantages
 
steve2286w said:
On my S3 88 I think are the 5.5 wheels I’ve got 7.5xR16 on , look about right not too narrow or outrageously wide
But Robs very right about the lack of tyre choice but as long as they make Avon rangemasters I’ll be happy , i perversely like the idea of tubes in too for some reason View attachment 253309
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That is a good chart, which I have seen before. Also relates to Cross Ply tyres, which give less grip, but are a much nicer drive on a Series, I have used them in the 80s.

Although I know all the evidence is to the contrary, I always prefer tubed tyres as well. Don't know why, just comfortable with what I grew up with, I guess.
 
If you want 7.50-16 then you need the 5.5 rims as this is the LWB set up. I would avoid cross-plys and tubed tyres, tyre tech has come on a lot since those were the norm.
 
rob1miles said:
Don't waste time on the 5" unless you are rivet counting. There is almost no tyre choice, even the 5.5 are marginal on tyres. I would strongly recommend tubeless rims as it makes getting tyres a lot easier but that's a personal choice. A lot of people run Defender steel wheels as a lot get taken off for alloys so you can pick up a set easily. S2A are 9/16 BSF and S3 are M16, the wheels fit, but the M16 studs are much stronger, I swapped my S2A from BSF to M16 to get the stronger studs and bigger nuts. The BSF are threaded into the hub and get pulled out by tyre shops so do them up yourself, the M16 are headed and can take 70 lb ft no trouble.
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You can also get headed BSF studs for the early series, I have them fitted to mine, remove old ones then run a 9/16 drill through the former threaded hole, hammer new studs in job done.
 
lynall said:
The narrow rims with 6.00 tires look really good on an 88
The biggest downside of 6.00 tires is the clearance under the differentials is severely reduced, I have been stuck a few times during the summer when the diffs have ground out on rockhard mud between the tire tracks
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Another downside is the expense and limited choice of 6.00x16 tyres.
 
rob1miles said:
If you want 7.50-16 then you need the 5.5 rims as this is the LWB set up. I would avoid cross-plys and tubed tyres, tyre tech has come on a lot since those were the norm.
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I have the original 5.5" tube type rims fitted with tubes and Avon Rangemasters. They look period mil spec, are not expensive, were a factory fit at one time, and work well enough on and off-road. A more modern 7.50R16 choice would be Defender tubeless 5.5" rims and Michelin Lattiude Cross tubeless 7.50R16 tyres, though the tread has a more modern car-like look.
 
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