Second Hand Camel

I hope to be in the market soon for a second hand Camel. I have been
told to expect to pay around £18,000 for a ten year old model in good
condition.

Does this seem about right?

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1 hump or 2?


"Andrew Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I hope to be in the market soon for a second hand Camel. I have been
> told to expect to pay around £18,000 for a ten year old model in good
> condition.
>
> Does this seem about right?
>
> ---
> Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
> London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

Hirsty's wrote:

Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
Camel is.

A "Camel Trophy" is a special Landrover built for real rugged
competition work. It is a yellowy gold colour and green, very high off
the ground, and suitable for African bush work. I have been up and down
a 1:0.5 hill, through three foot of water across a wide river, and
around the rim of a crater at 45 degrees.

It is not a toy like the Friedlander and I want one! It will cost me far
more than the asking price as I want to have it made as new.

Is that better?

If I wanted an on-road 4x4 mind you, I would love the Lamborghini LM004,
now there is a 4x4

Lambo website http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm004s.htm

Mind you, that's another 4x4 that stopped being built around ten years
ago. :-(

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London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

In message <[email protected]>, Andrew Taylor
<[email protected]> writes
>I hope to be in the market soon for a second hand Camel. I have been
>told to expect to pay around £18,000 for a ten year old model in good
>condition.
>
>Does this seem about right?
>
>---
>Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
>London UK - www.taylor.co.uk


Get yourself an Ibex, a much more agile beast than a camel.
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Chris Morriss

OK OK OK

SOo I ask again - 1 hump or 2?


"Andrew Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hirsty's wrote:
>
> Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
> Camel is.
>
> A "Camel Trophy" is a special Landrover built for real rugged
> competition work. It is a yellowy gold colour and green, very high off
> the ground, and suitable for African bush work. I have been up and down
> a 1:0.5 hill, through three foot of water across a wide river, and
> around the rim of a crater at 45 degrees.
>
> It is not a toy like the Friedlander and I want one! It will cost me far
> more than the asking price as I want to have it made as new.
>
> Is that better?
>
> If I wanted an on-road 4x4 mind you, I would love the Lamborghini LM004,
> now there is a 4x4
>
> Lambo website http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm004s.htm
>
> Mind you, that's another 4x4 that stopped being built around ten years
> ago. :-(
>
> --
> Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
> London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

Chris Morriss wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>, Andrew Taylor
> <[email protected]> writes
>
>> I hope to be in the market soon for a second hand Camel. I have been
>> told to expect to pay around £18,000 for a ten year old model in good
>> condition.
>>
>> Does this seem about right?
>>
>> ---
>> Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
>> London UK - www.taylor.co.uk
>
>
>
> Get yourself an Ibex, a much more agile beast than a camel.

I'll look into it and come back much later.

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Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

"Andrew Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hirsty's wrote:
>
> Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
> Camel is.
>
> A "Camel Trophy" is a special Landrover built for real rugged
> competition work. It is a yellowy gold colour and green, very high off
> the ground, and suitable for African bush work.

We do and you are more or less correct actually some are Landrovers some
are Jeeps, most are Discoveries and a few Range Rovers and most recently
Freelanders all of course made by the Solihull boys (excepting the Jeeps).
Oh and not just Africa , Papua New Guinea, Borneo, Australia, the Amazon,
Sulawesi, Brazil, Siberia ,Mongolia
pretty much anywhere that the Terrain is challenging except Chelsea
Derek


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Sorry could'nt resist the leg pull, certainly I know what a Camel is I'd
love to have one as the real ones become more rare as time goes on. The G4's
just don't seem to reflect the same aura.
)


> Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
> Camel is.
>

Hirsty's wrote:

> Sorry could'nt resist the leg pull, certainly I know what a Camel is I'd
> love to have one as the real ones become more rare as time goes on. The G4's
> just don't seem to reflect the same aura.
> )
>
>
>
>>Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
>>Camel is.

I had the feeling that was the case

If I may use this to reply to some of the others, I don't think I would
want anything but a Camel Trophy Defender. Certainly not a Friedlander
and as for Chelsea - surely the Range Rover version could fit in?

I took a look at the Ibex. Apart from the roll bars that seemed a great
idea, I think I will still prefer the Defender Camel. I have located one
in Peterborough for £18,000 and will pop up there to take a butchers.

Andrew

And as for MH's fun, I don't take any humps with my Camels I am
sweet enough! Or so my missus tells me - very occasionally.

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London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

In message <[email protected]>, Andrew Taylor
<[email protected]> writes
>I hope to be in the market soon for a second hand Camel. I have been
>told to expect to pay around £18,000 for a ten year old model in good
>condition.
>
>Does this seem about right?

Sounds a bit dear for a 10yrs old. I swapped wife no;8 for a 6yr old
and got a train throw in for good luck. Make sure you check the four
corner steadies as they can tend to loose tread at that age, also check
that the knee caps are all there as they can be awkward to find an
exact match and replace. Check around the off side header part as it
may have been bleed a lot for making warm drinks. Make sure you get the
timing spot on as hissing, farting and spitting are a common fault.


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Graham Jones

"Andrew Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hirsty's wrote:
>
> > Sorry could'nt resist the leg pull, certainly I know what a Camel is I'd
> > love to have one as the real ones become more rare as time goes on. The
G4's
> > just don't seem to reflect the same aura.
> > )
> >
> >
> >
> >>Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
> >>Camel is.
>
> I had the feeling that was the case
>
> If I may use this to reply to some of the others, I don't think I would
> want anything but a Camel Trophy Defender. Certainly not a Friedlander
> and as for Chelsea - surely the Range Rover version could fit in?
>
> I took a look at the Ibex. Apart from the roll bars that seemed a great
> idea, I think I will still prefer the Defender Camel. I have located one
> in Peterborough for £18,000 and will pop up there to take a butchers.
>

If you are going to a company whose name has something to do with a river
and sells hannibal roof tent and bars be very careful as he has been done
for selling fake camels in the past....

--
Simon Isaacs

Peterborough 4x4 Club Vice Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster (how
much more....)
3.5V8 100" Hybrid, now LPG converted
Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, waiting on the appointment with
the nice man at the MOT station!
Suzuki SJ410 (Fiancée's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and
mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
1993 200 TDi Discovery (the Pug 106 is dead, long live the Pug)

Peterborough 4x4 Club http://www.peterborough4x4.co.uk

Andrew Taylor wrote:
> Hirsty's wrote:
>
> Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
> Camel is.
>
> A "Camel Trophy" is a special Landrover built for real rugged
> competition work. It is a yellowy gold colour and green, very high off
> the ground, and suitable for African bush work. I have been up and
> down a 1:0.5 hill, through three foot of water across a wide river,
> and around the rim of a crater at 45 degrees.
>
> It is not a toy like the Friedlander and I want one! It will cost me
> far more than the asking price as I want to have it made as new.
>
> Is that better?
>
> If I wanted an on-road 4x4 mind you, I would love the Lamborghini
> LM004, now there is a 4x4
>
> Lambo website http://www.lambocars.com/lm/lm004s.htm

Until following your link I always thought the only 4x4 woth having was a
series Landie.

The LM004 is gorgeous !

>
> Mind you, that's another 4x4 that stopped being built around ten years
> ago. :-(

Be aware that there are a LOT of fake/reproductions out there (there was a
rash of enquires for paint details a few months ago),
Some of the genuine ones are support rather than comp vehicles.
Most of the vehicles didn't return to the U.K.
There is a registar to check details against, try posting to
alt.fan.landrover for imformation about Camel Trophy vehicles.

"Andrew Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Chris Morriss wrote:
> > In message <[email protected]>, Andrew Taylor
> > <[email protected]> writes
> >
> >> I hope to be in the market soon for a second hand Camel. I have been
> >> told to expect to pay around £18,000 for a ten year old model in good
> >> condition.
> >>
> >> Does this seem about right?
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
> >> London UK - www.taylor.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > Get yourself an Ibex, a much more agile beast than a camel.
>
> I'll look into it and come back much later.
>
> --
> Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
> London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

Simon Isaacs wrote:

> "Andrew Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Hirsty's wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Sorry could'nt resist the leg pull, certainly I know what a Camel is I'd
>>>love to have one as the real ones become more rare as time goes on. The
>
> G4's
>
>>>just don't seem to reflect the same aura.
>>>)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sorry, as I was in the 4x4 conference I thought you'd all know what a
>>>>Camel is.
>>
>>I had the feeling that was the case
>>
>>If I may use this to reply to some of the others, I don't think I would
>>want anything but a Camel Trophy Defender. Certainly not a Friedlander
>>and as for Chelsea - surely the Range Rover version could fit in?
>>
>>I took a look at the Ibex. Apart from the roll bars that seemed a great
>>idea, I think I will still prefer the Defender Camel. I have located one
>>in Peterborough for £18,000 and will pop up there to take a butchers.
>>
>
>
> If you are going to a company whose name has something to do with a river
> and sells hannibal roof tent and bars be very careful as he has been done
> for selling fake camels in the past....
>
> --
> Simon Isaacs
>
> Peterborough 4x4 Club Vice Chairman, Newsletter Editor and Webmaster (how
> much more....)
> 3.5V8 100" Hybrid, now LPG converted
> Part owner of 1976 S3 LWT, Fully restored, waiting on the appointment with
> the nice man at the MOT station!
> Suzuki SJ410 (Fiancée's) 3" lift kit fitted, body shell now restored and
> mounted on chassis, waiting on a windscreen and MOT
> Series 3 88" Rolling chassis...what to do next
> 1993 200 TDi Discovery (the Pug 106 is dead, long live the Pug)
>
> Peterborough 4x4 Club http://www.peterborough4x4.co.uk
>
>
>
Thanks for that, I have taken note.

On another aside I went to an exhibition where one of the stands had a
Hummer. I must admit it was impressive but even though it looked mean
and hungry I didn't feel the confidence it would perform very well in
the bush. It sort of made me think that, perhaps for mums to take their
sprogs to school in the city but... I am sure someone here will correct
my thinking.

--
Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

>
> On another aside I went to an exhibition where one of the stands had a
> Hummer. I must admit it was impressive but even though it looked mean
> and hungry I didn't feel the confidence it would perform very well in
> the bush. It sort of made me think that, perhaps for mums to take their
> sprogs to school in the city but... I am sure someone here will correct
> my thinking.
>
> --
> Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
> London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

I hear the Hummer is pretty crap in rocks and forest, they are apparently
sdesigned for mud, praires and sand, hence the fully independant suspension
and the fact they're so long and wide the bounce thir underside on rocks and
crests when going over a bump or stump.

rnf2 wrote:

>>On another aside I went to an exhibition where one of the stands had a
>>Hummer. I must admit it was impressive but even though it looked mean
>>and hungry I didn't feel the confidence it would perform very well in
>>the bush. It sort of made me think that, perhaps for mums to take their
>>sprogs to school in the city but... I am sure someone here will correct
>>my thinking.
>>
>>--
>>Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
>>London UK - www.taylor.co.uk
>
>
> I hear the Hummer is pretty crap in rocks and forest, they are apparently
> sdesigned for mud, praires and sand, hence the fully independant suspension
> and the fact they're so long and wide the bounce thir underside on rocks and
> crests when going over a bump or stump.
>
>
Yeah I can agree with that... might also be good for the parents to
school brigade

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Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
London UK - www.taylor.co.uk

In message <[email protected]>, Andrew Taylor
<[email protected]> writes

>> and the fact they're so long and wide the bounce thir underside on rocks and
>> crests when going over a bump or stump.
>>
>Yeah I can agree with that... might also be good for the parents to
>school brigade

We have one in the Manchester area that has had a '20ft' YES '20ft' body
extension!!!!!!

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Regards
Graham Jones

1 hump or 2?


"Andrew Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I hope to be in the market soon for a second hand Camel. I have been
> told to expect to pay around £18,000 for a ten year old model in good
> condition.
>
> Does this seem about right?
>
> ---
> Andrew Taylor (Ampers on Skype)
> London UK - www.taylor.co.uk