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Hudsons · Nov 4, 2015

Thanks to Chockydogs work I've managed to get the scumbag taken down hence the messages from eBay, at last I can rest

Hudsons · Nov 4, 2015

The account and name was hacked by the way nothing to do with the original owner

blue beasty · Nov 4, 2015

You leave yourself wide open to being ripped off if you step outside of eBay and frankly if you think your buying bits off a Defender that's only a few years old that's being broken because of vandalism you probably deserve to be.

Hudsons · Nov 4, 2015

Ok blue beastly thanks for your input, very constructive

blue beasty · Nov 4, 2015

Hudsons said:
Ok blue beastly thanks for your input, very constructive

I'm serious.

One of the likely positives of this is the scammer probably isnt breaking a Landy which likely means it hasnt been stolen.

People who buy extremely questionable 2nd hand parts are directly responsible for how profitable Land Rover theft is.

I keep hearing 'if I don't buy it somebody else will' but where's the line? Would you buy a complete Land Rover knowing it'd just been stolen and had an ID swap?

Not wanting to know doesn't make it any less wrong.

Chockydogs · Nov 4, 2015

So I see a seller with 100% positive feedback score over 1400, my first reaction is that its probably a safe seller.
Guess I am just another easy mark then - as there are plenty of adverts breaking whatever "if you bid on this you get a wheel nut, contact me for other bits...."

If someone sets out to defraud, steal or commit a criminal act; I dont think blaming the victim for falling for it is very useful, be that an "off" Ebay purchase, a phishing email or a man from the water company come to check some old dears taps etc!

I hope the scammer gets what he deserves...
It is amazing what information you can dig out using a bit of thought and Google.

The Mad Hat Man · Nov 4, 2015

Be careful out there folks - there's a lot of peeps trying to make a quick buck....

blue beasty · Nov 4, 2015

Chockydogs said:
So I see a seller with 100% positive feedback score over 1400, my first reaction is that its probably a safe seller.
Guess I am just another easy mark then - as there are plenty of adverts breaking whatever "if you bid on this you get a wheel nut, contact me for other bits...."

If someone sets out to defraud, steal or commit a criminal act; I dont think blaming the victim for falling for it is very useful, be that an "off" Ebay purchase, a phishing email or a man from the water company come to check some old dears taps etc!

I hope the scammer gets what he deserves...
It is amazing what information you can dig out using a bit of thought and Google.

Looking at that Defender and the info given it I'd assume without doubt that it was stolen.

If I bought parts off it to make it worthwhile for a thief to go out and take someone's pride and joy then yes....I'd deserve to get ripped off.

No doubt you asked dozens of questions and saw paperwork to make sure that wasn't the case.

Many don't bother

Hudsons · Nov 4, 2015

I guess I'm a bit nieve yes but I'd rather put a bullet through my head than go through life thinking in a criminal scumbags mind, on the whole people or honest and as has been said you have to take the add and the evidence at face value, a breaker breaking a Land Rover didn't seem out of the ordinary to me, hindsight is a wonderful thing

blue beasty · Nov 4, 2015

I generally expect people to be honest and trustworthy and could probably be ripped off easily enough by people that are devious enough and yes, side stepping your own protection on a site like eBay is all too easy to do and gutting when you get had.

Just looking at the age and condition of that Landy rang a whole different set of alarm bells though.

Chockydogs · Nov 4, 2015

blue beasty said:
Looking at that Defender and the info given it I'd assume without doubt that it was stolen.

If I bought parts off it to make it worthwhile for a thief to go out and take someone's pride and joy then yes....I'd deserve to get ripped off.

No doubt you asked dozens of questions and saw paperwork to make sure that wasn't the case.

Many don't bother

OK, you have a fair point.
Maybe it would be better to identify the things to look out for as a potential useful sticky thread.

Avoid
Breaking a car that looks too good to break (although half the series 3 breaking look better than mine!)
Photos showing complete car
mobile number only
delivery only
Only selling a few high value items - nothing else for a long time
ID history changes on Ebay (google curent and previous ID's)

Look for
Number plates \ ID visible
Photos showing the car is being broken up.
Damage\ corrosion or reason for it to be broken up.
Registered dismantler with website \ landline
Collect items yourself.
Recent feeback as seller for car parts

lightning · Nov 4, 2015

My guess is that he does not have any parts to sell, and that's just a picture of a random Land Rover that he found online.

tobysleeper · Nov 5, 2015

Hudsons said:
@ tobysleeper why have you been stung in the past too

Should be on here ripped off by Eddie fear

flat · Nov 5, 2015

There are lots of legit landrover breakers - I will happily buy parts off breakers via eBay as long as they will give me a phone number to phone them direct, then I question a bit about what they do and cross reference with Google to see if they are an actual company or what.

Hudsons · Nov 6, 2015

Good advice that Flat, don't jump in feet first and suffer afterwards no matter how legit they look, what I've found out recently is absolutely shocking

flat · Nov 6, 2015

Hudsons said:
Good advice that Flat, don't jump in feet first and suffer afterwards no matter how legit they look, what I've found out recently is absolutely shocking

Yeah quite - there is a good breakers I use down in Cornwall I found via eBay - I now deal with him direct by phoning up and he sends me a PayPal invoice.
There are legit peeps out there, as usual caveat emptor

Martyn110 · Nov 10, 2015

Barney ?

gazman · Nov 10, 2015

Have you tried googling them? I have and it gives an address

http://computers-linux-other-nonsen...1/direct-4x4-salvage-ltd-edward-fear.html?m=1

It doesn't look like he is in Merseyside after all, of it os the same person of course. I've just finished a night shift so I'm not quite 'with it"

gazman · Nov 10, 2015

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/gwent-4x4-amongst-other-names.130025/#post-1336859

leeds · Nov 10, 2015

With eBay it is very much a case of BUYER BEWARE

Remember if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is to good to be true

It is not only second hand parts that may be dodgy on eBay, so called brand new genuine parts can also be extremely dodgy on eBay.

Look carefully at what private individuals are selling. If multiples of the same brand new items should they be registered as a business seller? Where are they obtaining those items from?

Now if price is vastly different from normal retail price then ask why, especially if a private individual is selling multiple items.

Come across an item which a private seller had sold a few at between 50-75% of normal retail. Item was described as NEW (OTHER) genuine etc. I happen to know the supply chain on that item and no private individual can get hold of them in quantities. With a few other clues the conclusion was STOLEN from factory fitting them.

So do your homework first and if an expensive 'new' item keep to reputable business dealers

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