Red hot compressor

Radar1946 · Apr 28, 2018

Fitted a new compressor, refurbished the vale block, now it moves to the varios heights and the lights on the switch are working, but takes a long time to Change when driving and the compressor is very hot.

tomcat59alan · Apr 28, 2018

Radar1946 said:
Fitted a new compressor, refurbished the vale block, now it moves to the varios heights and the lights on the switch are working, but takes a long time to Change when driving and the compressor is very hot.

Is the compressor feeding a leak?

Radar1946 · Apr 28, 2018

Can not fing any leaks on the compressor or valve block. Could it be one of the suspension air bags leaking.

ukadamwest · Apr 28, 2018

The compressor should only take about 5 mins to fill the air tank. If it's running a long time it's either feeding a leak or the piston and sleeve are worn and it's not putting much out.. hence running long to fill the volume... if it's feeding a leak... it will never fill the volume

Radar1946 · Apr 28, 2018

Took the pipe off the end of the compressor and put my finger over the outlet and the air is coming out with lots of pressure

ukadamwest · Apr 28, 2018

Leak hunting time.

Find a local pond. Park it in the pond, put some swimming goggles on with a snorkel and have a look to see if there are any bubbles.

Don't eat a spicy bean burrito before hand...it will confuse the inspection findings.

tomcat59alan · Apr 28, 2018

ukadamwest said:
Leak hunting time.

Find a local pond. Park it in the pond, put some swimming goggles on with a snorkel and have a look to see if there are any bubbles.

Don't eat a spicy bean burrito before hand...it will confuse the inspection findings.

Or just park it , swim away then run as fast as you can.

Radar1946 · Apr 28, 2018

Don't tempt me. I had all this trouble with the p38 I just sold . I bought a newer p38 and you might know I have got to go through it again.

Grrrrrr · Apr 28, 2018

I'd park it up on extended ride height, pull the delay timer and see what she looks like in the morning.

kds · Apr 29, 2018

Grrrrrr said:
I'd park it up on extended ride height, pull the delay timer and see what she looks like in the morning.

I`m with Grrrrrrrr on this.

Rangie Disco Sportsman · Apr 29, 2018

I've fitted the schrader tyre valves T-eed inbetween the valve block and bags, as is quite common, but also with the valves that can be manually closed between the schraders and the valve block. My first port of call is then to close all the valves and leave it. If it stays up you know the bags are fine and it's the valve block and if not it's either the bags, the piping from the bags or the connectors. It reduces the amount of soapy water squirting and aids in diagnosis but also means you can pump them up manually to not drive back on the bump stops.

Grrrrrr · Apr 29, 2018

Rangie Disco Sportsman said:
I've fitted the schrader tyre valves T-eed inbetween the valve block and bags, as is quite common, but also with the valves that can be manually closed between the schraders and the valve block. My first port of call is then to close all the valves and leave it. If it stays up you know the bags are fine and it's the valve block and if not it's either the bags, the piping from the bags or the connectors. It reduces the amount of soapy water squirting and aids in diagnosis but also means you can pump them up manually to not drive back on the bump stops.

Mine had that when I got it. Turned out the T pieces were cheap **** and leaking! I still have the Scrader valves there but not plumbed in. In an emergency I could in theory connect them up (they have decent straight couplers on now from Activ-Air) but I always carry a spare compressor so not really an issue.

Rangie Disco Sportsman · Apr 29, 2018

Grrrrrr said:
Mine had that when I got it. Turned out the T pieces were cheap **** and leaking! I still have the Scrader valves there but not plumbed in. In an emergency I could in theory connect them up (they have decent straight couplers on now from Activ-Air) but I always carry a spare compressor so not really an issue.

I replaced all the piping from the same source as the push fit connectors when I did mine which I thought might be a sensible to minimise leaks.

I work on trucks and trailers and their air systems are basically the same with larger bore piping and similar ride height sensors. They do stay less and less air tight as they age but if they are leaking air they don’t tend to suffer so much with looking like a wounded animal after being sat overnight as the RR does. The main thing is the compressor on them is so much more suitable for the task being engine driven, oil fed and water cooled that an air leak doesn’t cause it to promptly fail.

Datatek · Apr 30, 2018

If the airsprings are original, most likely it will be one or more of them leaking, they have a 7/8 year 80K mile design life.
Adding lots of extra potential leaks with Schrader valves etc is IMO pointless. I overhauled mine when I bought the car 9 years ago and since then the only prblems I've had with the EAS was a dodgy driver pack and a new air dryer the contents of which decided to disintegrate.
I do carry 4 Schrader valves that I can put on the ends of the valve block lines and a compressor, never had to use them though.

Radar1946 · May 16, 2018

Fitted new air bags, now it works fine. near side air bag was leaking. Thank you all for your help.

Dopey · May 16, 2018

ukadamwest said:
Leak hunting time.

Find a local pond. Park it in the pond, put some swimming goggles on with a snorkel and have a look to see if there are any bubbles.

Don't eat a spicy bean burrito before hand...it will confuse the inspection findings.

Like this..... I found it easy

Radar1946 · May 17, 2018

I took it to my local swimming baths but they would not let me in. They said if they let me in everyone would want to go and test for leaks

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