That's the ticket. Thanks both. it's 1-1 afaik, as you're both trying to help an old duffer who's got about as much knowledge about this stuff as my wife has about cooking.that live i pointed in my first reply in this thread is permanent live from Fuse F9(30A) egine bay and it's used only for FBH which was not factory fitted for UK market so a clean direct 30A circuit in this case
I did suspect there might be a supply at the back for what I need, and thats the job. thanks