Quad Choice

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ER1C

ER1C

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Long and short of it, considering a quad... Primarily to tow a roller approx. 400-800 KG.. I would love to do this with a LR but its just too much hassle and not enough space/turning ability in fields, orchards, gardens etc.

Now most of the time the roller will be empty (300kg or so).

We trialled a second hand quad, 250 or so 2WD and manual gears, The brakes were knackered, the gears wouldn't engage so we sent it back. I am now considering a newer model.
4WD must
PS ideally
LR must
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2016-Hond...414955?hash=item4af7b502ab:g:XhAAAOSwUV9WoM7k

Above is the ideal model, now this is a new model so its not second hand yet, and the DCT version ups the towing capacity to 600KG.. which is rare for a quad. The previous trialled one was trialled as "suitable for the roller" but on research had a tow capacity of about 90KG.

1. Is the new one overkill ?
2. Is a newer 500 4WD PS ( but without the 600KG limit) a better option ?
3. How much can I haggle off dealers, I managed to get them down to 6800 +vat for the above model. (thinking of Stihl dealers 1k retail they buy for 500 and knock 250 off and make 250 profit.)

I saw a similar model without DCT and 600KG tow limit 2 years old with (5k MILES ON IT !!!!) and that was 5600 + VAT.
 
Larry365 said:
Wouldn't a compact tractor be a better choice over a quad?
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My thoughts exactly - we've had quads in the past, just tractors now - they are too much trouble when they go wrong, or when the sticky fingered types come calling..
plus nearly all compacts run on diesel.
 
Disco1BFG said:
My thoughts exactly - we've had quads in the past, just tractors now - they are too much trouble when they go wrong, or when the sticky fingered types come calling..
plus nearly all compacts run on diesel.
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Compact tractors are just too wide I am afraid..., we have some tight turns which are a pain.

With a Quad if it went wrong I can just pop it on a trailer and take to be repaired, that's not happening with a compact tractor.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-4WD...id=100005&rk=4&rkt=6&mehot=pp&sd=172090405841

This does tempt me though
 
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ER1C said:
Compact tractors are just too wide I am afraid.
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Ok, so what about the Kubota hydro drive "mowers", without the mower - a pal of mine just bought one of them, 20 years old, about 2000 hours on it and mechanically perfect - £750 !! bargain in my book - four wheel drive too, and virtually bullet proof. I admit its not the prettiest thing in the world, but it does the job rather well!

If you need a quad, then Honda or Yamaha IME, preferably the former.
 
Disco1BFG said:
Ok, so what about the Kubota hydro drive "mowers", without the mower - a pal of mine just bought one of them, 20 years old, about 2000 hours on it and mechanically perfect - £750 !! bargain in my book - four wheel drive too, and virtually bullet proof. I admit its not the prettiest thing in the world, but it does the job rather well!

If you need a quad, then Honda or Yamaha IME, preferably the former.
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Hydro Drive mowers ? They are belt driven aren't they, we have hills and wet, I don't think a belt would cope... I have an F'ing good mower already but its belt driven and slips lots.
 
ER1C said:
Hydro Drive mowers ? They are belt driven aren't they, we have hills and wet, I don't think a belt would cope... I have an F'ing good mower already but its belt driven and slips lots.
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Pretty sure the pump is direct engine drive, and the motors drive the wheels direct too - no belts IIRC - got to be worth a look at whats available in your area - think my pals one came from north wales (!). plenty of different tyres for them too, from grass to agri chevron to road...
 
At work we use Yamaha Grizzly (got 10 in our fleet) and they are good bikes. Although Yamaha overcharge for parts. One of them needs a new engine (someone decided to run it without oil), but a whole new bike costs 1k more than the engine alone. So as you can imagine, we're binning that bike and getting a new one. IIRC, the MoD releases running bikes for about 600-800 with a few hundred hours on them. Although once the big sellers get their hands on them the price tends to hit 2-3k.
 
Larry365 said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kubota-B7100-4WD-compact-mini-tractor-/111887578148

No wider than a quad and a billion times more useful.. unless you need to get somewhere fast. Will last forever and nothing you can't fix with a spanner.
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Are you kidding.... That's a LOT wider than a quad.

ADDED later, Christ I do apologise, that picture makes it look deceptively wide... .on checking you are right...in face its less wide.

The down side of something like that is in wet weather it will look like a tank has gone everywhere, The logic of a quad was also light and less damage.
 
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ER1C said:
Are you kidding.... That's a LOT wider than a quad.

ADDED later, Christ I do apologise, that picture makes it look deceptively wide... .on checking you are right...in face its less wide.

The down side of something like that is in wet weather it will look like a tank has gone everywhere, The logic of a quad was also light and less damage.
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Ha, no worries. Yeh, that's a good point. Quads have pretty light footprint. You could get some huge grass tyres for the tractor but then you would be too wide.
 
Not a quad but was my upgrade from a quad. I got a Kawasaki mule. Has a load bed on the back that can carry half a tonne and a tonne towing capacity. 4wd locking rear diff and limited slip front as standard. 900cc diesel and it's cvt drive train is very good. We have very steep hills here and it's never failed the hills. We tried many quads and utvs and this was best for our land. It also has a roof and roll cage as standard. So safer too. I've seen second hand ones for just over a grand but power steering models are about £3000. There is a petrol if you prefer that fuel choice.
It's even managed to pull my stuck 109 up our 40 degree hill. They have a lot of torque.
 
Pretty sure my neighbour's is a John Deere gator version, it can't pull what his foreman does but then I'm also pretty sure its a petrol engine. I'd still choose it over a quad today;)
 
cooltide said:
Pretty sure my neighbour's is a John Deere gator version, it can't pull what his foreman does but then I'm also pretty sure its a petrol engine. I'd still choose it over a quad today;)
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I had a look at those as well, there are higher end Gators which can pull 700KG..... I was very tempted by these and the mule, especially as they had a roof to keep the rain off. I dunno its a swings and round abouts really. I may accept light towing with something cheaper/lighter, and then just get the LR in the field for the heavier stuff. The problem then of course is for it to be dry enough for that does the extra weight make any difference. I think its safe to say a mini tractor is the safest but just not practical as it would take forever and cut up the field.
 
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