P38A Put my dummy back in

Duncanincapable · May 29, 2018

After a weekend of stewing and threatening all kinds of hell on the design bods at landrover I am wondering on a scale of 1 to 10 how easy is it to take engine and gearbox out as a single unit swap engine then put the whole lot back in? 1 being easier 10 being buy a new car. I don't really want to get rid of it.

Datatek · May 29, 2018

Duncanincapable said:
After a weekend of stewing and threatening all kinds of hell on the design bods at landrover I am wondering on a scale of 1 to 10 how easy is it to take engine and gearbox out as a single unit swap engine then put the whole lot back in? 1 being easier 10 being buy a new car. I don't really want to get rid of it.

Never done it but looking at doing it on a diesel, looks possible with a suitable engine crane, interested to see if you can do it.

gold rover · May 29, 2018

Duncanincapable said:
After a weekend of stewing and threatening all kinds of hell on the design bods at landrover I am wondering on a scale of 1 to 10 how easy is it to take engine and gearbox out as a single unit swap engine then put the whole lot back in? 1 being easier 10 being buy a new car. I don't really want to get rid of it.

Firstly, for being a good boy and picking up your dummy, here's a treat

Secondly, amongst all the fit, young and not so young, enthusiastic and helpful folks, on here, is there no one who can come give you a hand?

Duncanincapable · May 29, 2018

gold rover said:
Firstly, for being a good boy and picking up your dummy, here's a treat View attachment 150053
Secondly, amongst all the fit, young and not so young, enthusiastic and helpful folks, on here, is there no one who can come give you a hand?

Apparently not, even with a case of beer on offer.

gold rover · May 29, 2018

Duncanincapable said:
Apparently not, even with a case of beer on offer.

Wow! I am surprised. Silly question but did you post it in Regional LZers, in case anyone missed it.

Duncanincapable · May 29, 2018

gold rover said:
Wow! I am surprised. Silly question but did you post it in Regional LZers, in case anyone missed it.

There is a regional section?

tomcat59alan · May 29, 2018

Duncanincapable said:
Apparently not, even with a case of beer on offer.

If I could drive I would. Personally I would split the engine from the gearbox, remember there is a transfer box on the end of it. When I rebuilt the E type you have to put them in as one unit. You have to get the front end high in the air to give you ground clearance to swing it in.

gold rover · May 29, 2018

Sure is and there might be folks, hiding in there, who don't venture in here often but could still help,
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/categories/regional-landyzoners.85/

Grrrrrr · May 29, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
If I could drive I would. Personally I would split the engine from the gearbox, remember there is a transfer box on the end of it. When I rebuilt the E type you have to put them in as one unit. You have to get the front end high in the air to give you ground clearance to swing it in.

Don't know about the auto box but the manual one is a heavy unit. I left the transfer box on and it required some grunt to lift it. Tomcat reckons the transfer box comes off easy enough.

johnnyb70 · May 29, 2018

Definitely split the engine and box. This definitely can be done on the drive with no serious lifting equipment.(just an engine hoist). I reckon taking the engine and box out would require very serious lifting tackle and would be really awkward.

ukadamwest · May 29, 2018

gold rover said:
Firstly, for being a good boy and picking up your dummy, here's a treat View attachment 150053
Secondly, amongst all the fit, young and not so young, enthusiastic and helpful folks, on here, is there no one who can come give you a hand?

I would and i'm sure SaintV8 and BikeTeacherDave would pitch in.. but Lancashire...… its north of Gaydon and that's 'here be dragons' territory !

tomcat59alan · May 29, 2018

Grrrrrr said:
Don't know about the auto box but the manual one is a heavy unit. I left the transfer box on and it required some grunt to lift it. Tomcat reckons the transfer box comes off easy enough.

It does but getting it back on is a bugger.Manual box is no problem.

ukadamwest · May 29, 2018

Duncan.

I posted in your other thread.. but if its failed emissions and you've 'cooked it' do you mean overheated due to HG.. you could do the HG.. pull the heads and see what the bores look like. that way if you do decide on a lump swap at least you're getting access to the top transmission bolts.

bear in mind.. if you put a fresher lump in, you'll probably need to pull the heads to get to the top tranny bolts anyway.

tomcat59alan · May 29, 2018

ukadamwest said:
I would and i'm sure SaintV8 and BikeTeacherDave would pitch in.. but Lancashire...… its north of Gaydon and that's 'here be dragons' territory !

Aye, we eat suverners up e're.

tomcat59alan · May 29, 2018

ukadamwest said:
Duncan.

I posted in your other thread.. but if its failed emissions and you've 'cooked it' do you mean overheated due to HG.. you could do the HG.. pull the heads and see what the bores look like. that way if you do decide on a lump swap at least you're getting access to the top transmission bolts.

bear in mind.. if you put a fresher lump in, you'll probably need to pull the heads to get to the top tranny bolts anyway.

Unless you lower the gearbox .

ukadamwest · May 29, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
Aye, we eat suverners up e're.

Two cannibals eating a clown, one turns to the other and says 'does this taste funny to you?'

I think that was Bernard Manning

ukadamwest · May 29, 2018

tomcat59alan said:
Unless you lower the gearbox .

then you've got to get it out from under the car

tomcat59alan · May 29, 2018

ukadamwest said:
Two cannibals eating a clown, one turns to the other and says 'does this taste funny to you?'

I think that was Bernard Manning

No it was two cannibals eating a man, one said are you enjoying this,the other said I'm having a ball, the first said slow down your eating too fast

Ratae · May 29, 2018

If it's an auto make a piece of metal in the shape of a 'T'. Suggest 2 to 3mm thick-ish.
Drill the cross part of the 'T' to suit a couple of the small bolts in the round inspection cover on the bottom of the bell housing & bend the shaft so when in place it presses firmly against the front of the torque converter.
Stops it falling off when you either remove the engine or drop the gearbox as it isn't bolted to the gearbox.

Grrrrrr · May 29, 2018

ukadamwest said:
its north of Gaydon and that's 'here be dragons' territory !

Ah yes, how is Mrs @tomcat59alan ?!

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