Prospective not gay freelander owner

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It too much for a few reasons.
1st. It's a hard back (3 door). These are less desirable than the Waggon (5 door).
2 nd. It's a pre-facelift. These command lower prices.
3 rd. It's the least desirable engine. It's known to suffer problems. Although it can be correctly fixed. Most people just don't have the knowledge to do it correctly.
4 th it has evidence of rust on the door.
 
Nodge68 said:
It too much for a few reasons.
1st. It's a hard back (3 door). These are less desirable than the Waggon (5 door).
2 nd. It's a pre-facelift. These command lower prices.
3 rd. It's the least desirable engine. It's known to suffer problems. Although it can be correctly fixed. Most people just don't have the knowledge to do it correctly.
4 th it has evidence of rust on the door.
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But going through fleabay, there are none cheaper without serious problems and 5 door or later ones are significantly more money. IF it's just the crank sensor It seems a pretty good price for what it is. It has black leather interior ( Not cloth) 7 months MOT. The seller had a recon engine put in by an MG/Rover specialist (receipts to prove) plus, any others which come close are 100 miles plus away. I still think it's at least worth a look.
 
Give it a look.

Freelander prices always climb in autumn and winter, sometimes 25 to 50%.
The LH door mirror looks broken.
 
Have a look on www.Gumtree.com - there appears to be a much bigger choice.

Regardless of whether its 3 or 5 door, diesel or petrol, its a nice looking little truck - as I said earlier its got the nice black bumpers and roof rails - and the leather interior sounds in good nick. So its spec looks OK.

The big problem with this one is that your can't start it so you can't drive it - so you don't know hardly anything about it. You only have the seller's word that it only has a simple fault. Therefore, you buy it at a "spares or repair" price unless you take a gamble that it is fine other than this problem.

What better way for some pikey to make a few quid than to take a car which has a knackered gearbox and clanging transmission and damage the crank sensor so that it won't start and show its faults.

Could it start on easy start - so you could take it for a drive?
 
GrumpyGel said:
Have a look on www.Gumtree.com - there appears to be a much bigger choice.

Regardless of whether its 3 or 5 door, diesel or petrol, its a nice looking little truck - as I said earlier its got the nice black bumpers and roof rails - and the leather interior sounds in good nick. So its spec looks OK.

The big problem with this one is that your can't start it so you can't drive it - so you don't know hardly anything about it. You only have the seller's word that it only has a simple fault. Therefore, you buy it at a "spares or repair" price unless you take a gamble that it is fine other than this problem.

What better way for some pikey to make a few quid than to take a car which has a knackered gearbox and clanging transmission and damage the crank sensor so that it won't start and show its faults.

Could it start on easy start - so you could take it for a drive?
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I've talked to the seller, he's a personal trainer, lives in brighton... he sounds genuine, talked for a good while and he didn't seem to be bull****ting, he said it will jump-start so I could start it. The AA told him it was crank sensor but having looked into it I'm not convinced. He said it hesitates on acceleration which suggests it could be fuel filter or something else like coil pack etc.if it won't start at all I'll leave it- like you say, too much of a gamble.
 
I thought you said it is an 04 car. Something not right cause if it is 04 it should be a face lift.
+1 what Nodge said, a pre face lift K series is worth £650-£1000 if running with MOT. For a non runner I'd offer no more than £400 if in great nick.
I sold my last K series, an 02 5 door for £900. It was immaculate, running 100% new brakes all round, all the usual Freelander issues sorted and I .struggled to get that
 
Alibro said:
Just checked and it is March 03!
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Yep my mistake, it's an 03. I knew it was pre face-lift just a typo.
I've told the seller I'm not convinced it's just a crank sensor, however it's up to £550 on bids so far with a day left. (Reserve not met) Good luck to him if he gets his reserve price.
 
If it's down on power and struggling to start. It could well be a fuel filter blocked. I can pretty much guarantee that the filter will be the original. The pump needs removing to change the filter. This can also affect fuel pump life at it runs hot.
The K series is not known as a poor starter or known to suffer crank sensor failure.
 
Nodge68 said:
If it's down on power and struggling to start. It could well be a fuel filter blocked. I can pretty much guarantee that the filter will be the original. The pump needs removing to change the filter. This can also affect fuel pump life at it runs hot.
The K series is not known as a poor starter or known to suffer crank sensor failure.
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After a good old Internet investigation, that does appear to be the case. It seems if it was crank sensor it wouldn't start at all yet he says it does after a struggle. Apparently the AA immediately ruled out fuel issues and changed the spark plugs and did a few other things of which he's not sure, then concluded It was the crank sensor. If anything, I would have thought the cam sensor would be more likely
 
Well, I went to see it tonight. Good condition for its age, seller seemed like a genuine guy. He's owned it for 2 years and not given it a hard life. However... I did the usual checks, oil, fine, coolant, - header tank bone dry! He said he hasn't driven it since the AA started it (after about half an hour of trying and tweaking) he did 20 miles or so straight afterwards to charge the battery up but 2 days later it wouldn't start again so he hasn't driven it since. I tried a jump start but gave up after 20 mins. It was trying but just wouldn't bite. This does point to the crank sensor but the fact that the header tank was dry (when the AA would have checked it) says it has a leak from somewhere (nothing visually obvious)
I left him to see how he gets on with eBay.....
 
If its had a lot of jump starting - it might have fried the CCU or the ECU - it wouldn't be the first time.

No water in coolant system on a K Series is a "spares or repair" price for the car - you are right not to be interested at that price on this alone.

I don't know if auctions are the same in the UK, but over here $1 start auctions tend to have a lots of bids from people with no history, bumping the price up over what the car is worth. Then a week later the car is relisted "because the buyer was a time waster". Everyone (should) know its the buyer bidding up his own car using foney accounts.
 
+1 on the spares or repairs. I bought an 02 K series in immaculate condition which was running well enough for me to drive home for £275 because the guy thought the HG had gone.
I did a load of repairs, just the usual Freelander stuff and drove it for a few months before selling on. Thread is here
https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rover/looks-like-ive-done-it-again-doh.293904/
Bottom line is if you want a K series, don't mind taking a chance and are prepared to do some work to it, they are available for very small money.
 
My spares or repairs '01 FL1 also cost me £275. Seller didn't think the head gasket had gone. It had. And the head was as soft as French cheese.

Started on the first rotation of the crankshaft though! And ran as sweet as a nut despite the oil looking like a Starbucks Cappuccino...

As mentioned before, I think that this car has a compression issue, likely related to HGF and the fire ring not sealing (likely the cylinder head has gone soft).

Good to go an inspect and walk away if a rebuild project is not what you're after and you're paying pretty steep money for the privilege.
 
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