P38 Range Rover
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Get something small and cheap.Then build up one or two years no claims and then you can start looking at bigger and better motors.
Get something small and cheap.Then build up one or two years no claims and then you can start looking at bigger and better motors.
fodenwagon
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unless you are an extremely well off 17 yr old i'd say not! stick with something small engined to begin with, My first car was a MG metro and i paid £1300 third party only and that was 13 yrs ago! and the engine was only a 1.3!!
steve's P38 RR
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Depend on how much your willing to pay for one if you get a cheap old high mileage one your pay in the end in repair bill's but as everyones saying Id get a quote for insurance cause i know i pay enough for my dse and i'm 26 with 8 years no claims discount.
bwarb
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If you are happy with £4k/year insurance, then RR running costs will be nothing for you to worry about .........
But seriously, to help answer your question, some more info might be useful. How many miles/year do you anticipate doing, how much do you intend to spend on your RR, are you thinking petrol or diesel, are you thinking of getting an auto or a manual etc. etc. ?
All of those factors will impact significantly on running costs .....
Dan Meulebrouck
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Think very carefully...... buying a car like a Range Rover can be done relatively cheaply, but day to day running, insurance, maintainance and repair costs can be enormous. We all love our cars, but we are generally the first to admit that a Range Rover can be a deadly expensive and often unending money pit! A Range Rover is an enormously complex vehicle for a young person to even contemplate running.
Reconsider and then reconsider again, and when you have done that..... think again!
Reconsider and then reconsider again, and when you have done that..... think again!
Rodent
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you might just about manage to get a half decent insurance quote for a diesel. they are after all, slower than a snail. running costs will be high, especially if you're doing a lot of miles. i have a DHSE and i think it has all the toys that a vogue has
Also beware, 4x4's have unusual handling characteristics - lots of body roll in corners etc. so if you really want one take it for a test drive before you buy.
Also beware, 4x4's have unusual handling characteristics - lots of body roll in corners etc. so if you really want one take it for a test drive before you buy.
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I bought my P38 when I was 19, im now 22, I still have it today, I bought the diesel one.
Dont even bother with the V8 one at your age, 4k a year for insurance is just stupid. If you really do have this ammount of cash spare then look at the diesel ones if you are intent on having one, they tend to be a little bit more reliable but just like their V8 brothers they really, truthfully and honestly, aren't the most reliable vehicles in the world.
The diesel will be cheaper (relative to 4k anyway) to insure leaving you spare £££ for repairs - these are NOT vehicles you can drive into the ground and neglect, they require lots of attention and you can't let faults stack up because it will bite you hard and then you will just have a rather large paperweight on your driveway.
To give you an idea of running costs it costs me around £90-95 to fill mine from empty (and that with the diesel tank which is slightly smaller than the petrol one) - so depending on how much you drive it and the type of driving you do, with the diesel thats around £90 every 300-400 miles. A full service done by a specialist will cost around £450ish BEFORE they find anything else wrong like leaky seals, worn bushes etc. Lastly, in the past year I have had new blend motors, new track rod ends, refurbished fuel injection pump, new in-tank fuel pump, 4 new tyres, a service, ABS sensor, alternator, battery and then there was my whole gearbox problem which dragged on for over a year. I also have a air suspension fault looming which I will need to sort out. To be honest, typing it all out there makes me wonder why on earth I spend my ££ on it
Like Rodent says, they are not a sports car, they can't be driven like one so whizzing about country lanes and whatever is a no no, you WILL end up dead.
So to top it off, I am personally not going to say dont get one, I think you should, they are fantastic vehicles, when they work, but, be prepared for very high running costs and repair bills. Looking back on the time I have owned my P38 I realise that I have devoted many many hours of my time to it, both working on it and going TO work to be able to afford the bills for it.
Please think long and hard before buying, above all though, let us know what you decide to do!
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damn, ive got old
-Wills
I bought my P38 when I was 19, im now 22, I still have it today, I bought the diesel one.
Dont even bother with the V8 one at your age, 4k a year for insurance is just stupid. If you really do have this ammount of cash spare then look at the diesel ones if you are intent on having one, they tend to be a little bit more reliable but just like their V8 brothers they really, truthfully and honestly, aren't the most reliable vehicles in the world.
The diesel will be cheaper (relative to 4k anyway) to insure leaving you spare £££ for repairs - these are NOT vehicles you can drive into the ground and neglect, they require lots of attention and you can't let faults stack up because it will bite you hard and then you will just have a rather large paperweight on your driveway.
To give you an idea of running costs it costs me around £90-95 to fill mine from empty (and that with the diesel tank which is slightly smaller than the petrol one) - so depending on how much you drive it and the type of driving you do, with the diesel thats around £90 every 300-400 miles. A full service done by a specialist will cost around £450ish BEFORE they find anything else wrong like leaky seals, worn bushes etc. Lastly, in the past year I have had new blend motors, new track rod ends, refurbished fuel injection pump, new in-tank fuel pump, 4 new tyres, a service, ABS sensor, alternator, battery and then there was my whole gearbox problem which dragged on for over a year. I also have a air suspension fault looming which I will need to sort out. To be honest, typing it all out there makes me wonder why on earth I spend my ££ on it
Like Rodent says, they are not a sports car, they can't be driven like one so whizzing about country lanes and whatever is a no no, you WILL end up dead.
So to top it off, I am personally not going to say dont get one, I think you should, they are fantastic vehicles, when they work, but, be prepared for very high running costs and repair bills. Looking back on the time I have owned my P38 I realise that I have devoted many many hours of my time to it, both working on it and going TO work to be able to afford the bills for it.
Please think long and hard before buying, above all though, let us know what you decide to do!
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damn, ive got old
-Wills
knudsen
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I don't pay that much for ten years.
zzr1200
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Christ, I bought my 2.5 DT, insured it, filled it and had a meal out for less than that.
4 GRAND FFS!!!!!!!!
Almost afraid to ask but Third party/Third Party,Fire,Theft/Full Comp???????
And the excess amount?????????????
Russ85
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Ditto!
You'd be better off getting a Suzuki Samurai or a Jimny (sorry for the swearing!) if you wanna start off with a 4x4. At 17 I paid near a grand on insurance for a Samurai.
I've had the P38 DT since 21, (23 now), and the last insurance was around £750 including breakdown and any vehicle cover (with 5 yrs NCB).
Best off waiting a few years!!
p17mp-j
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i had a 4.6 hse when i was 17 and the insurence was £3500 then i sold that one and bought a 2.5dse an the insurence was £2000 so there is a great difference in the quotes but they rate it on how much damage the car could do and a rangie can do alot in an accident iswell as rating engine size id say buy the diesel bit slow but less to go wrong than the petrols go for it great cars
I have just bought a 4.6 HSE at 27. I have a stable job and a good income but even I can't aford to run it as an everyday car! Insurance was reasonable with 7yrs NCB (£500pa Fully Comp), but at over a ton to fill it up it is definately a luxury. I can't imagine how anyone under the age of 25 could justfy the insurance cost (I tried a series III when I was 17 and the best quote I could get through the NFU was £1200 TPFT, I was only going to pay £900 for it in the first place so I said forget it and bought a Ford Fiesta!!!! I have now worked myself up to a Rangie after 10 years and know that I would not have appreciated one at 17 (thats why we get older so that we can appreciate things more!). Also, my dad was never willing to waste money!!!!
Nick.
Nick.
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Im 27 and just bought a 4.6 HSE i paid £368 FC for myself, my girlfriend(27) and my dad(50) to be insured on it. I thought this was very good? I must say ive not had it long but already i can see its going to be expensive to run. On the plus side for me it does have an LPG conversion and 175 liter tank so this makes it a fare bit cheaper. Ive always loved P38s and promised myself i would have one one day. If you can afford it then go for it mate, although IMO if you wait 2-3 years the range rover P38 will still look as top class as it ever has?
