P38 nearly 40K and no cup holder?

RangeRoller dt · Feb 22, 2019

Datatek said:
A long term average of 24 mpg brim to brim checked with every fill on my P38 doesn't in my opinion make it a gas guzzler, My XR3 did about the same.

Brim to brim is the only way to know. Got few things that lower mpg and can do 24mpg easy. Helps to have manual box, suprised how little the L6 drinks for vehicle of it's weight/size. Better mpg than my defenderTD5, hilux or especially the shogun - that V6 was quick but incredibly thirsty

Grrrrrr · Feb 22, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
So it's a Buick?

Think that's essentially what the original Rover v8 was? @Saint.V8 would know.

marjon · Feb 22, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
So it's a Buick?

GM had Buick, Chevrolet, and a couple of others.

Although it’s a GM engine it is actually a SBC which comes from the Chevrolet part of the family.
It also has the Chevrolet cross on the rocker covers.

It’s the way I understand it.

J

RangeRoller dt · Feb 22, 2019

marjon said:
GM had Buick, Chevrolet, and a couple of others.

Although it’s a GM engine it is actually a SBC which comes from the Chevrolet part of the family.
It also has the Chevrolet cross on the rocker covers.

It’s the way I understand it.

J

You'll have to get sum pics of the engine bay for Henry now

Does it look anymore distinct on outside or would it have just been the lettering?

Your a lucky guy, will be worth a fortune in few years. My favourite but is the liccle desk

Henry_b · Feb 22, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
So it's a Buick?

The overfinch has a GM/Chevrolet small block v8 400hp

The Standard 4.6 is a bored and stoked 3.5 buick v8

marjon · Feb 22, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
Does it look anymore distinct on outside or would it have just been the lettering?

Nope unless you know where to look it just looks like grandad has looked after his car

it’s only mentioned in a few places. But if you know then you spot them.

But it really depends on the options taken when ordered. And some of course go for the “look at me”

J

Saint.V8 · Feb 22, 2019

Yep was a small block Buick in its original form....

marjon · Feb 22, 2019

Saint.V8 said:
Yep was a small block Buick in its original form....

I would question that.
I was under the impression that the Buick block was totally diff from the SBC although they had the same displacement.
This was from research I did when looking at buying many years ago.

J

Henry_b · Feb 22, 2019

marjon said:
I would question that.
I was under the impression that the Buick block was totally diff from the SBC although they had the same displacement.
This was from research I did when looking at buying many years ago.

J

The buick 215ci in 'merican lingo was a lightweight all ally V8.

The head of some crap hole in the UK went over to the yanks and somehow nicked the engine and some 'merican chap and took both over to the uk.

where it became the "rover v8"

Datatek · Feb 22, 2019

Henry_b said:
The buick 215ci in 'merican lingo was a lightweight all ally V8.

The head of some crap hole in the UK went over to the yanks and somehow nicked the engine and some 'merican chap and took both over to the uk.

where it became the "rover v8"

The Yanks wanted shot of the fragile alloy V8 because thin wall iron castings had arrived which were stronger and cheaper from what I read.

Bagshot · Feb 22, 2019

Am I wrong, but I thought the original Rover V8 block, (P6 etc) was quoted as a marine engine, hence the ally'. Is this the same.?
Happy to be corrected.

Henry_b · Feb 22, 2019

Bagshot said:
Am I wrong, but I thought the original Rover V8 block, (P6 etc) was quoted as a marine engine, hence the ally'. Is this the same.?
Happy to be corrected.

Not that i'm aware..

the VM diesels used in the late 85 to 90 classics were marine diesels.

The Rv8 isn't a marine engine, can be used in boats, but its intended purpose has always been automotive.

Bagshot · Feb 22, 2019

Knew I had seen it somewhere.. quoted from AROnline.
"It was pure chance that William Martin-Hurst’s eye happened to light on the compact little aluminium V8 on the floor of the Mercury Marine company’s experimental department at Wisconsin. Martin-Hurst, who had joined Rover in 1960 from the aircraft industry as Executive Director for Production and by January 1962 was Managing Director, was visiting Carl Kiekhaefer, head of the Mercury concern to discuss the production of a marine version of the Land-Rover diesel engine for use in fishing boats in the Far East.

And there on the  floor of the experimental department was this little light alloy V8. Sitting in the sun on the terrace of his lovely 16th century house looking out over the valley of the River Usk, Martin-Hurst told me that the V8 immediately aroused his interest because he was uneasy about the six-cylinder P7 (below) version of the four-cylinder 2000 P6 (above) which were then under development at Rover."

Henry_b · Feb 22, 2019

Bagshot said:
Knew I had seen it somewhere.. quoted from AROnline.
"It was pure chance that William Martin-Hurst’s eye happened to light on the compact little aluminium V8 on the floor of the Mercury Marine company’s experimental department at Wisconsin. Martin-Hurst, who had joined Rover in 1960 from the aircraft industry as Executive Director for Production and by January 1962 was Managing Director, was visiting Carl Kiekhaefer, head of the Mercury concern to discuss the production of a marine version of the Land-Rover diesel engine for use in fishing boats in the Far East.

And there on the  floor of the experimental department was this little light alloy V8. Sitting in the sun on the terrace of his lovely 16th century house looking out over the valley of the River Usk, Martin-Hurst told me that the V8 immediately aroused his interest because he was uneasy about the six-cylinder P7 (below) version of the four-cylinder 2000 P6 (above) which were then under development at Rover."

Yes the 215 buick was a mercury prototype motor but from what i understand it didn't amount to much.

in January 1964 Rover gave American operations head J. Bruce McWilliams permission to investigate the possible purchase of an American V8 engine for Rover cars. History relates that McWilliams first saw the Buick V8 at the works of Mercury Marine, where he was discussing the sale of Rover gas turbines and diesel engines to the company (Mercury did indeed use the Land Rover 2.25 L (137.3 cu in) diesel engine in marinised form). However, it is likely that McWilliams was aware of the Buick engine before this. In any case, McWilliams realised that the lightweight Buick V8 would be ideal for smaller British cars (indeed, it weighed less than many straight-4 engines it would replace). McWilliams and William Martin-Hurst began an aggressive campaign to convince GM to sell the tooling, which they finally agreed to do in January 1965. Retiring Buick engineer Joe Turlay moved to the UK to act as a consultant.

Bagshot · Feb 22, 2019

See, it's not all about EAS and HEVAC faults here..sometimes we learn stuff..

RangeRoller dt · Feb 22, 2019

Phew!

So it's a Buick?

Henry_b · Feb 22, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
Phew!

So it's a Buick?

Yes it is, the original 215 being made famous by Mickey Thompson..

Rv8 is a 215 with different rocker covers

marjon · Feb 22, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
Phew!

So it's a Buick?

Our P38 OF is not.
Our P38 4.6 is.

Simple

J

RangeRoller dt · Feb 22, 2019

Just the basics for me

I also have the bump but no spinny cup holder just a lid

Henry_b · Feb 22, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
Just the basics for me
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I also have the bump but no spinny cup holder just a lid
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Whats that funny lever like thingy in the middle

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