P38 Internal door handles - Oops.

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kooky_guy

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Having managed to trap myself in the Rangie this morning with all the door locks and windows frozen (the outside one worked!) I've managed to break something on the drivers door. When I pulled the internal handle to open the door, something went clunk and now it's all floppy - feels completely unattached to anything.

Anyone know if this is likely to be an easy fix or will I have broken something? Don't really want to strip the door down to find I need a part!

I knew everything was just going too well recently!

Guy
 
Just been having a quick look in Rave and Rangerovers.net - it's not very intuitive!

How is the internal handle connected to the latch? Is there a metal rod?
If so, how is it attached to the internal door handle? A flimsy plastic thing?

Can the internal door handle be removed without taking the door trim off?

Sounds like we're going to get snow tomorrow - just the weather for fixing cars in!
 
kooky_guy said:
Just been having a quick look in Rave and Rangerovers.net - it's not very intuitive!

How is the internal handle connected to the latch? Is there a metal rod?
If so, how is it attached to the internal door handle? A flimsy plastic thing?

Can the internal door handle be removed without taking the door trim off?

Sounds like we're going to get snow tomorrow - just the weather for fixing cars in!
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Internal handle is connecte to the latch with a metal wire (like a bike).
That wire usually fails at the metal connector so it's not repairable.

That metal connector goes into a flimsy plastic thing that is mounted on the latch.

No the internal door handle can't be removed without taking the door trim off.

Can't you open your door from outside?
 
996TURBO said:
Internal handle is connecte to the latch with a metal wire (like a bike).
That wire usually fails at the metal connector so it's not repairable.

That metal connector goes into a flimsy plastic thing that is mounted on the latch.

No the internal door handle can't be removed without taking the door trim off.

Can't you open your door from outside?
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Just spotted that in Rave, but can't see how it's attached to the latch, other than the fact that it goes to a plastic arm thing.

When you say the wire fails at the metal connector, which bit do you mean? Is it possible that the flimsy plastic bit on the latch has snapped? If so, would that mean a new latch?

Want to try and get some bits ordered this afternoon in anticipation.

I can open it from the outside, but it's a bit of a nuisance (especially if the window freezes shut, which it did this morning!)

Guy
 
You know what, i did both my front doors. It was always the crimped metal rod that is inserted in a eye of a plastic flimsy thing.
The way the latch is built, it can't snap there.

i know the photo is really small but it's the only one i have
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The damn cable

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and where it usually break
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When you'll master the technic for the RH, do the LH and your p38 will be trouble free for years...
That's an old P38 sorcerer trick! :)
 
£35.61 I've just been quoted for one!!!!

Found a Britpart one for £9.99. Surely they couldn't screw something as simple as this up, could they? Or am I being optimistic?
 
the l-shaped metal connector at the internal door handle end of mine has popped out of its receptor on the door handle a few times when a heavy-handed passenger has yanked at the handle from the inside. It is worth checking this first as it's an easy fix. To check, take the internal door handle escutcheon off by removing 2 screws (philips) securing it to the door card. Manouevre the plastic escutcheon past the internal door handle and set aside. Inspect inside - you will be able to see if the problem is at the door handle end. If the cable terminator has popped out of its white plastic receptor, you can relocate it using a pair of long-nosed pliers. You may have to rotate the white plastic receptor as there is an indent on one side which should be in line with the cable end. the L-shaped cable terminator clicks in to the white plastic receptor with a little vertical pressure - job done!

Steve
 
greenslade said:
the l-shaped metal connector at the internal door handle end of mine has popped out of its receptor on the door handle a few times when a heavy-handed passenger has yanked at the handle from the inside. It is worth checking this first as it's an easy fix. To check, take the internal door handle escutcheon off by removing 2 screws (philips) securing it to the door card. Manouevre the plastic escutcheon past the internal door handle and set aside. Inspect inside - you will be able to see if the problem is at the door handle end. If the cable terminator has popped out of its white plastic receptor, you can relocate it using a pair of long-nosed pliers. You may have to rotate the white plastic receptor as there is an indent on one side which should be in line with the cable end. the L-shaped cable terminator clicks in to the white plastic receptor with a little vertical pressure - job done!

Steve
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Cheers. I'll do that. Worth a try, isn't it!!

Guy
 
greenslade said:
the l-shaped metal connector at the internal door handle end of mine has popped out of its receptor on the door handle a few times when a heavy-handed passenger has yanked at the handle from the inside. It is worth checking this first as it's an easy fix. To check, take the internal door handle escutcheon off by removing 2 screws (philips) securing it to the door card. Manouevre the plastic escutcheon past the internal door handle and set aside. Inspect inside - you will be able to see if the problem is at the door handle end. If the cable terminator has popped out of its white plastic receptor, you can relocate it using a pair of long-nosed pliers. You may have to rotate the white plastic receptor as there is an indent on one side which should be in line with the cable end. the L-shaped cable terminator clicks in to the white plastic receptor with a little vertical pressure - job done!

Steve
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Just had a look and unfortunately the problem doesn't seem to be at this end. Cable end is properly plugged into the handle but the cable is slack, suggesting it's not attached at the other end somewhere. Buggr.

Still, it doesn't look too bad a job - just annoyed at the price for what is really just a piece of wire!

Guy
 
sorry to hear it wasn't the very easy fix. You're right though, changing the cable isn't a difficult job - door card off, easy with the door foam...
 
996TURBO said:
IIRC i had to remove the latch to connect the metal bit in there.
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This is turning into a righht bugger of a job.

Can I remove the latch enough to access the bit without having to disconnect all the rods?

Stupid Rave just says to disconnect everything and then remove the latch but you'd have to be a 3 handed ambidextrous midget with x ray vision to be able to get in there to do anything.

I can see (just) the end of the broken cable but I'm buggered if I can work out how to get it out let alone get the end of the new one in.

Guy
 
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