Datatek
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Access not easy on the diesel especially if you have not done it before.
P38A P38 2.5 dse engine noise?
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Datatek
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Ok it turns out that the transmission problem is real and not a battery charge issue.
I’m currently not driving it anymore to make things not worse.
It started with output shaft message, that went away and it actually never came back. To be sure I changed the filter and oil again. Found nothing in the sump to worry about, oil looked light brown.
Shifting is a bit better but still a bit off but nothing too bad. But it started making a bunch off noises especially noticeable when hot. I could more or less locate where the noise is from, it looks like it’s coming from where the box and the transfer case meet.
I called a local gearbox specialist and he quoted 2500-3000€ that’s including labour to remove and re-install the gearbox.
It’s a diesel so it has the zf hp 22. I understand that the 4.6l uses a better gearbox and it should work on a diesel as well with some modifications.
Is correct to assume that if using the 4.6 gearbox I only need to keep the diesel bell housing and torque converter?
Also I would have to source a good used one to start with or I’m at risk of having the same issue again.
Any advice or suggestions? I’m weighing of the revised gearbox vs a hp24 2nd hand.
I’m currently not driving it anymore to make things not worse.
It started with output shaft message, that went away and it actually never came back. To be sure I changed the filter and oil again. Found nothing in the sump to worry about, oil looked light brown.
Shifting is a bit better but still a bit off but nothing too bad. But it started making a bunch off noises especially noticeable when hot. I could more or less locate where the noise is from, it looks like it’s coming from where the box and the transfer case meet.
I called a local gearbox specialist and he quoted 2500-3000€ that’s including labour to remove and re-install the gearbox.
It’s a diesel so it has the zf hp 22. I understand that the 4.6l uses a better gearbox and it should work on a diesel as well with some modifications.
Is correct to assume that if using the 4.6 gearbox I only need to keep the diesel bell housing and torque converter?
Also I would have to source a good used one to start with or I’m at risk of having the same issue again.
Any advice or suggestions? I’m weighing of the revised gearbox vs a hp24 2nd hand.
Datatek
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Unless you are towing or off roading I wouldn't bother with the HP24, just gave the one I had away.
There are 3 versions of the HP24 plus early and late. The late version uses the same casing as the HP22. Mark has just discovered that the input shaft length may be different, this depends on year and which torque convertor was fitted on the 4.6. The oil pump may also have to be changed. The diesel bell housing and torque convertor have to be used.
Ashcroft Engineering is the go to place for a reconditioned box and they can arrange fitting of an exchange unit.
Datatek
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The problem is getting it out from under the car, I don’t have a service pit. I did remove my engine before, it would have been easier hence I’m looking to get it replaced for me.
