evil_goat
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I was replacing my head gasket, and i saw this. What do I do now? Can this be repaired? If I have to replace the block, how would I do that? How does this even happen?
Disco 2 My block broke
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Running it a long time with head gasket blown is the cause, when she started to miss consistently was the time
to remove the head,
Agree another engine would work out cheaper in the long run, or you may be able to pick up a short block possibly,
Good luck
to remove the head,
Agree another engine would work out cheaper in the long run, or you may be able to pick up a short block possibly,
Good luck
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I can only speculate that that engine has been running a long time with a blown head gasket , has it been doing lots of short journeys without you realising?
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Is there no chance of the poor bloke getting it welded up and remachined?
Short blocks or 2nd hand engines may be rare in Califor-neye-aye!
Short blocks or 2nd hand engines may be rare in Califor-neye-aye!
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I think the answer to that may be surprising although I think they ought to have the know how to fix it.
but it'd prolly be expensive. The buick block was invented etc donkeys years ago and I think it was intended for use it a boat, without Googling it.
We bought it and I don't think it was ever used in the US. Again without researching, just from memory, which may be faulty!
It's technically possible, but not practical.
Remove the old engine, refit a suitable replacement.
Running the engine for a period of time with HG failure will cause this, especially if low octane fuels are used.
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according to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V8_engine
Buick V8s of the displacement used in LR products were not used in the US. after about 1961
As this shows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine
Buicck sold the tooling for the Buick V8 as used in the UK when it took the project over for Rover, back in the early 60s and indeed they had seen it in its marinised version too.
This is why I said I thought it would be hard to buy a short block in the US.
So three choices:
Get it repaired by someone who can weld it then grind and machine it back
Get one from the UK
Fit a US style V8 along with all the installation problems that would entail.
Unless you are lucky enough to find someone with a V8 engined Land Rover or Range Rover they don't want any more. Maybe there are specialist breakers over there.
I do sympathise as hearing that one or even two cylinders are misfiring, or not firing properly in a V8 is not easy. It is obvious from the pics that after the gasket failure, for a longish while one cylinder was firing and blowing exhaust over into the other cylinder. The direction the molten metal took tells you which cylinder blew it across. Interesting that it only seems to have gone one way, maybe as a result of the firing order.
Best of luck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V8_engine
Buick V8s of the displacement used in LR products were not used in the US. after about 1961
As this shows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine
Buicck sold the tooling for the Buick V8 as used in the UK when it took the project over for Rover, back in the early 60s and indeed they had seen it in its marinised version too.
This is why I said I thought it would be hard to buy a short block in the US.
So three choices:
Get it repaired by someone who can weld it then grind and machine it back
Get one from the UK
Fit a US style V8 along with all the installation problems that would entail.
Unless you are lucky enough to find someone with a V8 engined Land Rover or Range Rover they don't want any more. Maybe there are specialist breakers over there.
I do sympathise as hearing that one or even two cylinders are misfiring, or not firing properly in a V8 is not easy. It is obvious from the pics that after the gasket failure, for a longish while one cylinder was firing and blowing exhaust over into the other cylinder. The direction the molten metal took tells you which cylinder blew it across. Interesting that it only seems to have gone one way, maybe as a result of the firing order.
Best of luck.
evil_goat
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I'll probably try this route. How much do you think this repair would cost? Also how likely is this to break? Will it be possible to repair it without taking the engine out?
No, its an engine out and strip job. You'd be better off having top hat liners fitted at the same time too. Dropping a replacement engine in is likely the cheapest option, even allowing for your location
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It's that not the dead gasket we're looking at in the photos?
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Yep quite common with a blown headgasket between cylinders.
I'd get any Rover V8 block magna fluxed before fitting and while its at the machine shop have top hat liners fitted.
I'd get any Rover V8 block magna fluxed before fitting and while its at the machine shop have top hat liners fitted.
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OK but I have heard of it being done, especially D1s with TDi300s
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Well Allen Millyard has been welding engines together for years so I would imagine its entirely possible to fix a little hole like that on great big heavy tractor motor.
Trouble is you still need to have the face machined, unless you intend to file it insitu, so the motor still has to come out and be stripped.
If the motor is out and stripped then a new block and rebuild would seem a better bet, or as others have said a second hand motor complete.
