Model clarification and tuning

Hi

Hoping someone might be able to answer a couple of Q's for me? I'm pretty up on Land Rover's in general and have a wealth of experience with Series, Disco's and Defenders. But despite looking I can't find exact answers to some Freelander related questions.


1. TCS/HDC - was this available on the 3 door soft/hardback 2.0 L Series diesel? I presume it was but none of the reviews seem to fully clarify exact specs.

2. Are softbacks rare? I can't seem to see many for sale.

3. Can a softback be retro fitted to a hardback? And how easy is it to the remove the hardback?

4. L-Series tuning. Is the Freelander variant the same as the MG ZR's? I believe the latter can be modded to about 160hp. Does anyone know if this is possible with the Freelander?

5. I've read that there were some model changes circa 2000. I've seen suspension and engine mounts listed, but no where that I've read as expanded on this. Is anyone able to tell me the actual differences? As well as any benefits or not that they bring?


Thanks.

1. was optional to start wiff, then standard later on.

2. yes rare

3. yer can buy hard tops which fit on. Can't be that hard

4. erm erm... someone else will know about this

5. ratio's changed, brakes updated, new engines, auto option available, suspension changes... if yer download the rave disk yer can see an update thing in the Technical Brochure section of the Freelander bit:

Major changes
The major change to Freelander 2001 model year is the introduction of new powertrain
derivatives. The familiar K1.8/PG1 has been modified to meet ECD 3 legislation and will be
supported by the new 2.5 litre KV6 engine with Jatco automatic steptronic transmission. The L
series 2.0 litre diesel engine is replaced by the BMW common rail M47R engine. The M47R is
available with both the Jatco automatic transmission and a new manual transmission the Getrag
283.

Other feature changes include:
• Revised anti-lock braking system (ABS) fitted as standard with hill descent control (HDC),
electronic traction control (ETC) and electonic brakeforce distridution (EBD)
• Full controller area network (CAN) bus system
• Cruise control (both petrol and diesel automatic derivatives)
• New instrument pack
• New immobilisation system - (EWS-3D)
• HEVAC upgrades including variable displacement compressor, pulse width modulated
(PWM) cooling fans and air conditioning pollen filter
• Heated seats with lumbar adjust available on driver's seat
• Electric rear windows
• One shot down on driver's window
• Revised and improved audio system including steering wheel switches

This be a help too: Freelander - Fix problems, repairs, diagrams, whats wrong, faults, upgrates - Land Rover

Cheers thanks.

Hippo said:

5. ratio's changed

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Do you know from what and to? Are they interchangeable?

Hippo said:

suspension changes...

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I'd love to know the specifics.

Hippo said:

if yer download the rave disk yer can see an update thing in the Technical Brochure section of the Freelander bit:

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What's a rave disk?

Hippo said:

The M47R is
available Getrag 283.

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Presume the L-Series used the PG1?

Is the Getrag a better/stronger box?

Hippo said:

Other feature changes include:
• Revised anti-lock braking system (ABS) fitted as standard with hill descent control (HDC),
electronic traction control (ETC) and electonic brakeforce distridution (EBD)

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Was the "revision" the fact it became standard or is it actually different in parts and/or operation?


Thank you

I think 160HP is a bit optimistic. Even if it isn't, you wont be wanting power, you want torques. Had my hippo chipped and estimate it is now 120hp and 200Nm. Hippo is transformed with much more torque at low revs and quite a bit more power. Fuel consumption at constant throttle is about the same. Short trips and lots of pedal make it much worse. Mine varies from 25mpg at worst and (once) 48mpg at best. This is the average for a whole tank. Total average fuel mileage, about 32mpg.

Happyhippo

Do you know from what and to? Are they interchangeable?
The ratio in the ird was changed so that the difference between the speed of the rear wheels, was nearer to the front. On Freelander 1’s, the front wheels turn faster. If yer change the ird, to the later version ratio, then yer betterer orf as there won’t be as much stress in the transmission, causing the vcu to over work, un fail early (****ing up yer ird and/or the rear diff). Not sure if rear diff ratio changed at the same time.

Suspension changes… I'd love to know the specifics.
Ain’t got a clue, but stuff like that is in the rave disk:
Front suspension:
The front suspension comprises two MacPherson strut dampers with coil springs, two lower suspension arms and an
anti-roll bar. A front subframe is bolted to the body and provides mounting points for the lower suspension arms. Each
damper has a steering arm which provides for the attachment of the track rods from the power steering rack.
The suspension is designed to allow longitudinal movement of the wheel, which allows the wheel to move rearwards
and upwards in response to surface undulations. The longitudinal movement allows the springs and dampers time to
react to surface changes which improves ride quality.
Rear suspension:
The rear suspension comprises two MacPherson strut dampers with coil springs and two sets of three links (known
as "trapezoidal links"). A rear subframe is bolted to the body and provides the mounting points for the fixed and
adjustable links. The third link is known as the trailing link and is attached from the hub carrier to the body.
The suspension is designed to allow longitudinal movement of the wheel, which allows the wheel to move rearwards
and upwards in response to surface undulations. The longitudinal movement allows the springs and dampers time to
react to surface changes and improves ride quality.

Whats the rave disk?
The rave disk is the LR equivalent of a bible. It tells yer how yer LR works, un how ta fix it. As a Freelander owner you be doing a lot of that. Can buy disks on ebay, or download it free: land rover rave technical system

Un while am at it, the microcat cd will be yer friend when, and you will, need replacement parts.

Download: LAND ROVER MICROCAT PARTS SYSTEM may 2011

Online: Microcat - Spare parts Land Rover catalogue in English

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Presume the L-Series used the PG1?
Is the Getrag a better/stronger box?
Don’t know. Found this on ere:
Petrol and L-Series diesel engines: - PG1 box
TD4 diesel: - Getrag 282

ABS ETC…
Was the "revision" the fact it became standard or is it actually different in parts and/or operation?
Sort of. They made it standard as most cars/4x4 had it as standard back then. Perhaps due to it being a popular option. I can only assume LR following, or more likely in the case of the Freelander, leading the 4x4 market. They did several ABS computer things apparently. Don’t know why:
1998-2001 wabco d abs
2000-2001 teves mk20
2001-2006 teves mk25
If yer going orf road, then ETC will make a big difference as it will stop spinning wheels from spinning. Hence allowing delivery of power to wheels wiff grip. Note that like any vehicle wiff wheels, if they is all spinning, then yer ****ed.

Generally speaking, yer better orf ta buy a diesel Freelander, if it’s a Freelander 1. 2001 onwards models (started late 2000 on vin code 1A onwards) is betterer due to the ratio change un the upgrades. If yer buying pre 2001, then the diesel is betterer. Petrels are ok, but diesels are more reliable. Read through the posts on here to get a feel for common faults un what goes wrong.

You be wanting a service guide next. Right click on it un select "save pic as..." to save it to yer phooter:



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I believe you can also bypass the egr fairly easily. 160bhp isn't so easy to get even with the later Td4 model without spending big money.

Cheers for the info. I think the 160hp I read on the MG forums was a mis-print.

As I say, I'm fairly up on Landy's. Been involved and around them all my life, had Defender's, Disco's, Rangie's and Series. V8's, Tdi's and 2.25's.

My Mum currently has a 1.8i 5 door Kalahari Freelander. And I've got a 4.0 Jeep Cherokee (which I must say is actually a superb bit of kit), sadly it likes a drink so I'm considering a diesel Freelander as a cheaper option to run.

I just like to do my research first and sadly I'm rather picky on what model/spec I'd want too.

I think I'd prefer an L-Series over a Td4 as I think it's a more stout engine. But it must be 3 door and it must have the TCS/HDC.

Another question. Seen a couple on ebay with turquoise interior sections. Was this only on the early ones or the Td4's as well?

Thanks for the info, it's been really great

I think the turquoise interior was only on early models. Wasn't available in 2001.

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300bhp/ton said:

Cheers for the info. I think the 160hp I read on the MG forums was a mis-print.

As I say, I'm fairly up on Landy's. Been involved and around them all my life, had Defender's, Disco's, Rangie's and Series. V8's, Tdi's and 2.25's.

My Mum currently has a 1.8i 5 door Kalahari Freelander. And I've got a 4.0 Jeep Cherokee (which I must say is actually a superb bit of kit), sadly it likes a drink so I'm considering a diesel Freelander as a cheaper option to run.

I just like to do my research first and sadly I'm rather picky on what model/spec I'd want too.

I think I'd prefer an L-Series over a Td4 as I think it's a more stout engine. But it must be 3 door and it must have the TCS/HDC.

Another question. Seen a couple on ebay with turquoise interior sections. Was this only on the early ones or the Td4's as well?

Thanks for the info, it's been really great

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What makes you say this mate?

Td4 engine is just as bombproof, it's just some of the ancillaries like MAF, injectors, lift pump etc. that can be a bit weak. Td4 also has a timing chain whereas the L-series is a belt. L-series needs its glowplugs to be in good condition to ensure reliable starting & some members have reported one of them being difficult to access for changing. Td4 being common rail direct injection is less reliant on its glowplugs. both are good engines though.

Cheers.

I have no real basis to claim either way, its just I know as a general rule more modern CRD engines are more complex with more components that can fail. And indeed a little browse I've seen more TD4 fault threads than L Series ones.

This thread here seems to suggest that 4 times the number of people have had issues with TD4's over L Series: Land Rover Zone - View Poll Results

Although I do understand there are possibly more TD4's than L Series.

Suspect I'm not fussed overall, so long as it's a 3dr with TCS, manual and some kind of diesel.

The 160bhp refers to the K series petrol engine and not the L series. You'd be lucky to get over 120bhp with the L series i believe.