May be a first time rover owner! Need advice :)

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danmanblooms

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Hello all!
Thinking of picking up a RHD 1995 defender 110 csw 300tdi. I would be a first time rover owner here so be gentle on me lol.
What are they typically worth here in the states?
Anything specific I should be looking for when I go see it?
Body and all seems to be in good condition with new paint. Just light surface rust on frame. 220k miles.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
 
Pictures would help ...
Here in the UK a 1995 car would by now now, need a new chassis.
The blukhead would need a good look at as would the doors which rot on the bottom.
The wiring would be a bit suspect as well, it tends to go a bit brittle after 29 years.

The engine will likely be fine,they are quite robust and as long as it hasn't been raced/overheated/abused will be OK.
Brakes are easily overhauled and I would presume be on replaced disks, pad and or callipers by now too.

Just look around and underneath for signs of rot, you can (here in the UK) get pretty much everything to restire/repair back to new.

As to how much it's worth in the States .... I have no idea, my crystal ball is away at the menders
 
Hello all!
Thinking of picking up a RHD 1995 defender 110 csw 300tdi. I would be a first time rover owner here so be gentle on me lol.
What are they typically worth here in the states?
Anything specific I should be looking for when I go see it?
Body and all seems to be in good condition with new paint. Just light surface rust on frame. 220k miles.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
Defenders are silly money in the USA. It isn't for me to say you shouldn't, it is your money. But in reality they probably aren't worth the money. When new they were a fairly cheap, very utility work truck. Prices have gone silly in the UK too, and frankly they aren't worth what people want for them here. And our prices are way more sensible than USA prices.

I'd have thought RHD in the USA would be a bit of a PITA. You'll want to check for rust and general condition. Chassis, footwells and bulkhead corners below the wind screen (shield) all rust. Trim can be tatty and likely suffer from wiring issues, usually dodgy earths.

They are simple and robust vehicles overall and easy and normally cheap to work on in the UK.

The Tdi is very unrefined and for USA roads very very very very very slow and did I say unrefined? Frankly you'd have to be completely mental to want to run a Tdi engine in the USA.

You'd be much better off buying a Jeep.

The Defender is good for utility, good payload and good tow rating (which Jeeps normally aren't), but you have plenty of big pickup trucks for doing this kind of thing. Defenders have a very very basic interior. They have their charm, hence the following. But do remember a Discovery 1 or Range Rover classic are 99% the same under the body. Same axles, drivetrain, chassis design, steering, etc etc. Only a wheelbase difference and the fact the body design and how it is mounted is different. Making a Disco/RR much more refined and comfortable.

As I say, its your money, so your choice. And yes, they look great. But on any rational level they make no sense spending stupid money on to get something that is slow, basic, unrefined, noisy and no more capable than a Wrangler off road.

Axles are also fairly weak by USA standards, think Dana 30/35 or less. Stock tyres can break things and anything over 33's could be risky. You can upgrade the axles, which will be expensive in the USA, but still limited to around 35's and you'll need to drive with kindness.

Gearboxes are ok, but there is an entire industry in the UK that rebuilds them. Transfer box is good, but can wear over time.

Of course you could swap out the axles, transmission and engine for stronger parts like some Dana 44's and a Chevy LS or even swap a JK drivetrain over to one. But at this point, you have to ask if it is really worth having a Land Rover at all, as you'll have so little left.
 
Hi and welcome!

If I was in the states and after a defender, I’d go for a V8 over a Tdi. As for price, I can’t say. It would be an idea to see if you can find any similar vehicles for sale for comparison. You can convert it to LHD but again, at a cost.

Let us know what you decide and post some pics of what you get.
 
Holly cow ... U$35,000
I need a lie down ...
To be fair, prices are silly even in the UK, just having a quick look on ebay and there are plenty in the £30-40k range.... which is nuts.

Op - for reference in the UK you could get a much much newer model for way less money:
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About $18,000 USD.

The trouble is, because the USA has a 25 year import rule and lots of Americans are willing to pay silly money for these vehicles. It has hugely inflated the prices here and more so in the USA. Because people where buying £5-10k vehicles and shipping them to the USA to sell for $50k+ ripping lots of people off in the process.

I also know that proper NAS Defenders also command silly money in the USA.

Now don't get me wrong, I love these vehicles. Have grown up with them, have one outside the house now and my brother has one, my Uncle has several and many of my friends have one or more.

But they have generally been affordable and many have been work horses. The utility value of these vehicles is very high and many used on farms or for towing.

We also get RHD Jeeps in the UK. Way less popular than Land Rovers though. But partly that is Land Rover is home grown and generally been a lot more available. But Jeeps are generally not rated for much towing or any utility value as a work vehicle.

Jeeps actually hold their money quite well, but here is an example:
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And another:
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The JK's in the UK are mostly diesel, so comparable to a Defender, although the JK is faster, more powerful and much more refined and much higher spec. The JK Unlimited in the UK even has a decent tow rating, but still lacks the utilitarian nature of a Defender, so aren't used much as work trucks, although in reality they'd likely be every bit as good.

So even in the UK, the JK for £10k is way more vehicle than the Puma Defender 110 at £15k. I suspect the difference in the USA is vastly more and that $35k USD could buy you a lot of Jeep.

For you in the USA, there is no rational reason to get a Defender at inflated prices apart from the novelty factor. What is your intended use for the vehicle?
 
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