Maximum towing weight...

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OldDiscoMan said:
You may think it's Bull **** but can I suggest you go to the following web sites, it's all there if you have the patience to read.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_4022564

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/drivingforwork/drivershoursandtachographrules/drivershourtachographrules.pdf
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FFS the 2nd link is for buses and coaches and it shows on the first table that non PSV vehicles are exempt.?? and this is from the 1st link.

Category B: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats

Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
For example:

  • a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle


Whereas

  • the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
  • Vehicle manufacturers normally recommend a maximum weight of trailer appropriate to their vehicle. Details can usually be found in the vehicle's handbook or obtained from car dealerships. The size of the trailer recommended for an average family car with an unladen weight of around 1 tonne would be well within the new category B threshold.

I rest my Case :doh:
 
3.5 efi said:
give in
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Trailer Lighting Requirements

Trailers must have on the back two red sidelights, two red stop lamps, an illuminated number plate and two triangular red reflectors plus amber indicators designed to flash between 60 and 120 times per minute. If they are more than 1.3m wide, they must also have at least one red fog lamp. All trailers built after Sept 30th 1990 require front reflectors. They must have front reflectors and, if they are more than 1.6 metres wide, front position lights.
Requirements:
  • If, in the case of direction indicators, it is not possible to meet the maximum height requirements, this dimension can be increased to 2300mm.
  • If, in the case of the rear position (tail) lamps and stop lamps, it is not possible to meet the maximum height requirements, this dimension can be increased to 2100mm.
  • On trailers manufactured after 1 October 1985, the maximum height of the red triangular reflectors can be increased to 1200mm if necessary.
  • Trailers manufactured after 1 October 1985 require numberplates, illuminated by an 'E' or 'e' marked lamp. If a clear window in the rear position lamp is approved, this can be used instead of a separate numberplate lamp but must be fitted to the manufacturer's instructions with regard to distance from the numberplate.
  • At least one rear fog light is mandatory on trailers over 1.3 m wide. Two lamps are preferred but, if only one is fitted, it must be to the offside or on the centre line of the trailer.
  • No maximum distance from the outer edge of the trailer is stated for a fog lamp(s) but there must be a minimum distance of 100mm from the stop lamp.
  • The distance of the direction indicator from the side of the trailer may not exceed the actual distance of the rear lamp by more than 50mm.
  • Trailers manufactured after 1 October 1985 which are more than 1600mm wide, (except boat trailers) require front position lamps (clear lens).
Certain trailers must have side position lights which show white to the front and red to the back. In addition, trailers over certain lengths must have amber side reflectors.
 
3.5 efi said:
is that like a trailer board ?
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Yep. Hence the triangular reflectors, number plate, tail, stop, indicator and number plate lamps.

Versus the lighting regs for towing a brokendown vehicle......

(7) Where a broken-down vehicle is being drawn by another vehicle–
(a)regulations 18 and 23 shall not apply to the broken-down vehicle between sunrise and sunset, and
(b)between sunset and sunrise those regulations shall apply to the broken-down vehicle only in respect of rear position lamps and reflectors

Plain English it just needs side lights on at night.:D:D:D

Now since you have just proved to said occifer that the brokendown vehicle you are towing IS NOT a trailer ask said occifer where the category is on yer driving licence for 'towing a brokendown vehicle';)
 
ratty said:
Yep. Hence the triangular reflectors, number plate, tail, stop, indicator and number plate lamps.

Versus the lighting regs for towing a brokendown vehicle......

(7) Where a broken-down vehicle is being drawn by another vehicle–
(a)regulations 18 and 23 shall not apply to the broken-down vehicle between sunrise and sunset, and
(b)between sunset and sunrise those regulations shall apply to the broken-down vehicle only in respect of rear position lamps and reflectors

Plain English it just needs side lights on at night.:D:D:D

Now since you have just proved to said occifer that the brokendown vehicle you are towing IS NOT a trailer ask said occifer where the category is on yer driving licence for 'towing a brokendown vehicle';)
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works for me
 
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