Usability LZ-Live Speed

accyroy · Jul 22, 2015

We have had multiple comments regarding LZ-Live, some say it's too fast, some say it's too slow, what do you think?

trax · Jul 22, 2015

Can you clarify what you mean?

I think most are referring to the backlog. So when you go to the page, it show's the last 20? posts, then it starts showing the new.

I think some are thinking they are all new posts coming in.

I'd prefer the backlog as fast as possible.

accyroy · Jul 22, 2015

Definitely mean the backlog, can't speed up people's posting habits

ER1C · Jul 22, 2015

The new posts can be slow but its the delay when you first hit the page.. If I was sat on LZLIVE read them all I would be happy when it slowly scrolls up a new post.

The problem is on first visits waiting for all 20 before doing anything is annoying. First load should be instant then load after than as it is now...

We don't ask for much do we

DiscoPol · Jul 22, 2015

too slow for me

trax · Jul 22, 2015

See while we are waiting for the poll to finish.. how about leaving it on the fastest setting

Silverlandy · Jul 22, 2015

What er1c said.

blue beasty · Jul 22, 2015

Silverlandy said:
What er1c said.

Yep, I'd rather it loaded as quickly as possible so I can then read posts.

Trewey · Jul 22, 2015

Don't care because I never use it.

steviebacon · Jul 26, 2015

Is there no way to cache it for a certain amount of time? (I've not looked into it at all being lazy)
similar to
Load page lock a cookie with timestamp
then if you reload the page the existing data will already be there and it will just have to load any new posts since that time stamp?

As I said I've not looked at the code/structure so don't even know if this is possible just a suggestion

trax · Jul 26, 2015

steviebacon said:
Is there no way to cache it for a certain amount of time? (I've not looked into it at all being lazy)
similar to
Load page lock a cookie with timestamp
then if you reload the page the existing data will already be there and it will just have to load any new posts since that time stamp?

As I said I've not looked at the code/structure so don't even know if this is possible just a suggestion

you generally cache to prevent server load or reduce response time as it adds unneeded complexity.

the current way will be a poll to which will filter by previous post id or time. then it probably returns json with the posts.

if there is not a setting in the addon for a display speed.. not poll interval, then the easiest way would be to modify the addon client js to display the posts asap/whatever you choose.

blue beasty · Jul 26, 2015

I have no idea what any of that means but I am finding it annoying skipping back and forth to live and waiting for the page to reload from scratch.

Having two tabs open helps, one for viewing live and one for going to thread to thread. Not ideal though

steviebacon · Jul 26, 2015

trax said:
you generally cache to prevent server load or reduce response time as it adds unneeded complexity.

the current way will be a poll to which will filter by previous post id or time. then it probably returns json with the posts.

if there is not a setting in the addon for a display speed.. not poll interval, then the easiest way would be to modify the addon client js to display the posts asap/whatever you choose.

I haven't slept since Thursday :/
you know what I meant though.
Take the forums they pull everything first then display.
So a similar setup for the live would suffice. Ie load all before last time stamp. Make the "live" call.
render .

trax · Jul 26, 2015

steviebacon said:
I haven't slept since Thursday :/
you know what I meant though.
Take the forums they pull everything first then display.
So a similar setup for the live would suffice. Ie load all before last time stamp. Make the "live" call.
render .

aight, i think it does does get a bulk response, just the js is displaying one by one. so it could show very fast. i've only had a quick peek though. should be easy enough to fix, you can do it if you want

nathan5346 · Jul 26, 2015

accyroy said:
We have had multiple comments regarding LZ-Live, some say it's too fast, some say it's too slow, what do you think?

Its like waiting for a bus waiting for all the live to load

steviebacon · Jul 26, 2015

trax said:
aight, i think it does does get a bulk response, just the js is displaying one by one. so it could show very fast. i've only had a quick peek though. should be easy enough to fix, you can do it if you want

I'll have a nose later on if you want me to I'm upto my armpits in nappies, dinner and nursing atm

accyroy · Jul 27, 2015

Yup, no settings in the live addon, @trax I can send you the js, if you could speed it up it would be appreciated by all

trax · Jul 27, 2015

accyroy said:
Yup, no settings in the live addon, @trax I can send you the js, if you could speed it up it would be appreciated by all

yeah i'll have a look. i'm away until next week tomorrow though, so it mightn't be instant.

if you have the unobfuscated src from https://www.landyzone.co.uk/js/liveupdate/min/update.js that would be useful

accyroy · Jul 27, 2015

trax said:
yeah i'll have a look. i'm away until next week tomorrow though, so it mightn't be instant.

if you have the unobfuscated src from https://www.landyzone.co.uk/js/liveupdate/min/update.js that would be useful

I'm afraid thats the only version of the js I have!

trax · Jul 27, 2015

accyroy said:
I'm afraid thats the only version of the js I have!

no worries, i'll sort it

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