Low Emission Zone (LEZ) - Exemption Rejected....PLEASE HELP!

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ZMann

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Dear All:

I own a beautiful 1995 300 TDI "County" Station wagon with windows on the sides and 10 seats. I was just rejected for an exemption in London LEZ with Transport for London (TFL). Last week I was rejected by the DVLA for a change to Estate, and I am at a loss.


The letter reads:
"We've completed reviewing the information that has been sent in about the vehicle and can confirm that the vehicles compliance status will be non - compliant, as it's will still be classed as a Light 4X4 Utility vehicle as the seating at the rear of the vehicle is benches and they are not classed as fixed seating.
If we were able to accept the bench seats for the application your vehicle would still be subject to the LEZ Scheme as the vehicle would have 10 seats and would still be non # compliant."

I don't understand because on their website they say:
"A small number of Defenders 90s and 110s may be a 'station wagon' but may not be classified as such by the DVLA. This means vehicles with side and rear windows manufactured with fixed seating throughout the vehicle including the area accessed via the back door and there are nine seats or less including the driver's seat. Please note that vehicles without fixed seating throughout will not be treated as an estate and will be subject to LEZ. Fixed seating means individual seats with seat belts. It does not include benches or homemade seating variants. For models registered before 1998 - register your vehicle with TfL with suitable photographic proofs showing all sides of the vehicles with all doors open which clearly shows the entire internal seating arrangements. "

I am going to appeal, but what do I do? Do I need to remove my bench seats, so not to be classified as a minibus or do I.... Please help!

Z
 
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I think you have an uphill struggle with this one, you will need to remove the bench seats and replace with 4 individual drop down seats (with individual belts and also remove the centre seat and replace with cubby box to meet the seating requirements. Have you used the VIN decoder http://www.landroverweb.com/landrover/calvin-chassis-number-calculator/ to confirm that it was originally built as a CSW (rather than a previous owners conversion of a van)?
 
I checked the VIN (SALLDHMF7TA######), It has the M, so its a 5-door station wagon including rear door (LWB). It even says SWTDI on the model in the V5C.
So I just replace the seats and resend the forms? The problem is that I already sent them photos with the bench seats on my initial application. Will they allow me to just change the seating?

Thanks for all the help. I already renovated her and put so much time into her. Its depressing.

Z
 
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I cant really say as mine is LEZ compliant (a 1996 90 300TDI SALLDVB67TA******) so didn't take it any further. If the VIN says 4 door and I assume yours is either 3 or 5 door then someone has changed / modified it in the past by the look of it. May be worth getting on to LR to ask them what it was originally built as, if it is/was a genuine CSW then they should be able to provide some form of letter to that effect in case the V5 has been incorrectly complied. I think my V5 calls mine an estate car (don't have V5 available at the moment so going by memory). Even if you do get some help from LR you would need to change the seating arrangement before resubmitting which itself could be fairly costly. There have been a couple of threads on here about LEZ so may be worth a search, hopefully someone else will chip in soon.
 
If it has more than 8 PASSENGER seats, it will be classed as a minibus, the same reason that I removed one bench in mine to bring the seats down to my licence.
 
If it was built as a SW as shown by vin it will have been with 5 doors ( 2 each side one at rear)
It will have depending on year 2 or 3 seats across row 1 (front) then it will have a second row of 3 seats (either individual or 2+1 depending on year) . Then behind the second row will be two inward facing bench seats . The bench seats in back will be the longer variety (classed as 3 seats) each side this gives a grand total of either 12 or 11 . This would then not be subject to LEZ .
 
If your vehicle was registered as a SW originally , eg estate in theV5 then how did it get another classification ?
If also it was registered as such then at the time the seating was compliant , TFL cannot retrospectively change the legislation on your vehicle and say that they are not permanent seating .
If its 3 doors with rear benches its not a SW , and therefore not an estate , and TFL are right , and someone has sold you a vehicle which has been changed from its original body, IF the VIN has M as seventh digit it was originally built as a 5 door SW .If it hasnt got M then you are pretty much flogging a dead horse with regard to TFL .
 
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You can indeed bifuel a diesel on LPG.
I was planning in getting my previous Mondeo done for a bit of extra go and less smoke.
If you get it signed off the car will be a bifuel car and not a diesel.
 
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