LED "bulbs" again

Previously remarked on SuperBright LEDs. These are still excellent value
but the Ultra LEDs lot have stolen a march on them - latest one from Ultra
has 19 axial and 16 radial LEDs for a total of 35, the important bit being
that they are 26mm dia. and fit normal bulb housings. They're more
expensive, at about 8 quid each (cf about 8 dollars) but worth the extra, I
think.

I got a pair of these to try out in the minibus and they're sufficiently
impressive that I've just ordered some more - 2 more amber and 2 of the
similar 30-LED (18 axial, 12 radial) red ones for me brake lights. I'm
happy with the superbright ones for rear/fog lamp - but their 24-LED amber
one is not impressive in an indicator housing. I emailed them to say so,
but haven't seen any new products...

Ultra do a 35-led one for rear/brake appications in red, as well.

I see their latest offering is one with 16 LEDs all radial which they say is
ideal for the jewel-type modern car lamps.


no connection, with either company. Ultra seem to be the way to go for
indicators, especially, at the moment.
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Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Previously remarked on SuperBright LEDs. These are still excellent value
> but the Ultra LEDs lot have stolen a march on them - latest one from Ultra
> has 19 axial and 16 radial LEDs for a total of 35, the important bit being
> that they are 26mm dia. and fit normal bulb housings. They're more
> expensive, at about 8 quid each (cf about 8 dollars) but worth the extra,
> I
> think.
>
> I got a pair of these to try out in the minibus and they're sufficiently
> impressive that I've just ordered some more - 2 more amber and 2 of the
> similar 30-LED (18 axial, 12 radial) red ones for me brake lights. I'm
> happy with the superbright ones for rear/fog lamp - but their 24-LED amber
> one is not impressive in an indicator housing. I emailed them to say so,
> but haven't seen any new products...
>
> Ultra do a 35-led one for rear/brake appications in red, as well.
>
> I see their latest offering is one with 16 LEDs all radial which they say
> is
> ideal for the jewel-type modern car lamps.
>
>
> no connection, with either company. Ultra seem to be the way to go for
> indicators, especially, at the moment.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
> Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.

Austin have you got a link to them - I was thinking it might be
a good idea the scooby eats stop/tail bulbs I've just treated
her to xenon halogen bulbs so I may as well go the whole hog
Derek
'All the gear - no idea'

On or around Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:49:20 GMT, "Derek"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>>
>> Ultra do a 35-led one for rear/brake appications in red, as well.
>>
>> I see their latest offering is one with 16 LEDs all radial which they say
>> is
>> ideal for the jewel-type modern car lamps.
>>
>>
>> no connection, with either company. Ultra seem to be the way to go for
>> indicators, especially, at the moment.
>> --
>> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
>> "Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
>> Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
>
>Austin have you got a link to them - I was thinking it might be
>a good idea the scooby eats stop/tail bulbs I've just treated
>her to xenon halogen bulbs so I may as well go the whole hog

http://www.superbrightleds.com
http://www.ultraleds.co.uk

will see what Ultra's 30-led red ones look like in a day or so. much
impressed by the amber ones - for some reason, amber ones tend to look less
bright then they should based on their output - all the ones I've had from
superbright are technically brighter than the red equivalent, they just
don't look like it.

can't speak for the 16-radial thing. The combination axial+radial ones make
a bright spot in the middle, which is good in bright conditions, I think -
might look naff in the modern jewel-type reflectors with clear glass though.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588

"Austin Shackles" wrote >>> --

>
> http://www.superbrightleds.com
> http://www.ultraleds.co.uk
>
> will see what Ultra's 30-led red ones look like in a day or so. much
> impressed by the amber ones - for some reason, amber ones tend to look
> less
> bright then they should based on their output - all the ones I've had from
> superbright are technically brighter than the red equivalent, they just
> don't look like it.
>
> can't speak for the 16-radial thing. The combination axial+radial ones
> make
> a bright spot in the middle, which is good in bright conditions, I think -
> might look naff in the modern jewel-type reflectors with clear glass
> though.

Austin...I can't see any standard replacements on either of the sites for
the normal Stop/Taillight bulbs with two filaments.
Or are my eyes not seeing properly?

Regards
Bob Hobden

Bob Hobden wrote:

> Austin...I can't see any standard replacements on either of the sites for
> the normal Stop/Taillight bulbs with two filaments.
> Or are my eyes not seeing properly?

http://www.ultraleds.co.uk/default.php?cPath=44_62


--
EMB

On or around Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:00:15 -0000, "Bob Hobden" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Austin Shackles" wrote >>> --
>
>>
>> http://www.superbrightleds.com
>> http://www.ultraleds.co.uk
>>
>> will see what Ultra's 30-led red ones look like in a day or so. much
>> impressed by the amber ones - for some reason, amber ones tend to look
>> less
>> bright then they should based on their output - all the ones I've had from
>> superbright are technically brighter than the red equivalent, they just
>> don't look like it.
>>
>> can't speak for the 16-radial thing. The combination axial+radial ones
>> make
>> a bright spot in the middle, which is good in bright conditions, I think -
>> might look naff in the modern jewel-type reflectors with clear glass
>> though.
>
>Austin...I can't see any standard replacements on either of the sites for
>the normal Stop/Taillight bulbs with two filaments.
>Or are my eyes not seeing properly?

on the Superbright site you want 1157-Rnn where nn is number of LEDs.

on the Ultra site they're listed in the menu on the left - click on
"automotive bulbs (323)" or whatver the number is and you get a sub-menu,
then click "380 stop/tail bulbs (14)"

various types - normally recommended to use red ones in red-lensed units.
White ones are brighter, but the red lens filters out all but the red light,
so a waste of effort. Obviosuly, if you've got clear lenses, then you have
to have red units.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination -
we learned to talk." Pink Floyd (1994)

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:49:20 GMT, "Derek"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>>
>>> Ultra do a 35-led one for rear/brake appications in red, as well.
>>>
>>> I see their latest offering is one with 16 LEDs all radial which they
>>> say
>>> is
>>> ideal for the jewel-type modern car lamps.
>>>
>>>
>>> no connection, with either company. Ultra seem to be the way to go for
>>> indicators, especially, at the moment.
>>> --
>>> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
>>> "Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
>>> Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.
>>
>>Austin have you got a link to them - I was thinking it might be
>>a good idea the scooby eats stop/tail bulbs I've just treated
>>her to xenon halogen bulbs so I may as well go the whole hog
>
> http://www.superbrightleds.com
> http://www.ultraleds.co.uk
>
> will see what Ultra's 30-led red ones look like in a day or so. much
> impressed by the amber ones - for some reason, amber ones tend to look
> less
> bright then they should based on their output - all the ones I've had from
> superbright are technically brighter than the red equivalent, they just
> don't look like it.
>
> can't speak for the 16-radial thing. The combination axial+radial ones
> make
> a bright spot in the middle, which is good in bright conditions, I think -
> might look naff in the modern jewel-type reflectors with clear glass
> though.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
> too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
> sighted, 20th July 1588

Thanks Austin I will have to give them a try they sound ok ( specially the
economy ones) let us know how you find them
Derek

On or around Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:41:25 GMT, "Derek"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>Thanks Austin I will have to give them a try they sound ok ( specially the
>economy ones) let us know how you find them

my findings so far: the plain 19-led narrow angle ones work quite nicely in
LR indicators with the fresnel style lenses, and no reflectors.

the plain ones in reflector style housings such as disco are no bloody good
at all.

Superbright's (wide angle LEDs, admittedly) 24-LED ones with 6 radial aren't
much cop as indicators, not bright enough, although the brake/tail one works
OK in the minibus rear lamps which are not completely unlike disco ones.

single-pin 24LED red ones in the minibus foglamp bit are OK, not incredibly
bright but OK. I use these as brake lights (wiring swapped round, also done
the same to the disco; my theory is that you want fog lights to be
brighter-than-normal rear lights, but it's safer to have a separate brake
light which only does one job)

Ultra LEDs 35-LED (19 ax, 16 rad) amber unit is excellent in the indicator
housings. They claim 60 degree viewing LEDs for the axial ones, which looks
about right. nice and bright and good glow in the lens. I've just ordered
2 more for the back, and also some of their 30-LED (18 ax, 12 rad) single
contact red, for the brake lights.

Judging by the results from the 35-led amber, I'd expect the 35-led
brake/tail red ones to be equally impressive - but I'm happy enough with the
superbright 24s in the application I use 'em for, so changing those is not a
priority.

Ultra LEDs fancy ones cost more - 16-17 quid per pair, compared with
superbright's 24 models, but are significantly better.

Shipping stuff by plain mail from the states (superbright) for 5 bucks has
worked fine the 2 times I've done it.

--
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In Touch: Get in touch with yourself by touching yourself.
If somebody is watching, stop touching yourself.
from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

"Austin Shackles"replied after...
"Bob Hobden" enlightened us thusly:
>
>>>
>>> http://www.superbrightleds.com
>>> http://www.ultraleds.co.uk
>>>
>>> will see what Ultra's 30-led red ones look like in a day or so. much
>>> impressed by the amber ones - for some reason, amber ones tend to look
>>> less
>>> bright then they should based on their output - all the ones I've had
>>> from
>>> superbright are technically brighter than the red equivalent, they just
>>> don't look like it.
>>>
>>> can't speak for the 16-radial thing. The combination axial+radial ones
>>> make
>>> a bright spot in the middle, which is good in bright conditions, I
>>> think -
>>> might look naff in the modern jewel-type reflectors with clear glass
>>> though.
>>
>>Austin...I can't see any standard replacements on either of the sites for
>>the normal Stop/Taillight bulbs with two filaments.
>>Or are my eyes not seeing properly?
>
> on the Superbright site you want 1157-Rnn where nn is number of LEDs.
>
> on the Ultra site they're listed in the menu on the left - click on
> "automotive bulbs (323)" or whatver the number is and you get a sub-menu,
> then click "380 stop/tail bulbs (14)"
>
> various types - normally recommended to use red ones in red-lensed units.
> White ones are brighter, but the red lens filters out all but the red
> light,
> so a waste of effort. Obviosuly, if you've got clear lenses, then you
> have
> to have red units.

Thank you both, I must be tired!

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK

I will agree with Austin,

following the last discussion I bought a set of amber 35 LEDs per "bulb", a
set of red brake/tail light 35 LEDs "bulbs" and a set of front position
white 30 LEDs "bulbs" and a special relay for the operation of the amber
flashing "bulbs"

They are EXCELLENT, very bright, extremely easy to fit and dealing with
ultraleds was very efficient. Took them only one week to be delivered to me
in Greece from the UK.

No connection with the company, just a VERY satisfied costumer and Austin
thanks for recommending them.

Take care
Pantelis

P.S. I opted on the relatively more expensive option of buying them from the
UK based ultraleds rather from the USA based company manufacturing those LED
"bulbs" because of the custom duties of 45% and 19% VAT and more expensive
shipping that would be added on the cheaper USA prices in order to import
them from a non EU country. Buying from the UK was ultimately cheaper than
buying from the USA with the added taxes etc.
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Previously remarked on SuperBright LEDs. These are still excellent value
> but the Ultra LEDs lot have stolen a march on them - latest one from Ultra
> has 19 axial and 16 radial LEDs for a total of 35, the important bit being
> that they are 26mm dia. and fit normal bulb housings. They're more
> expensive, at about 8 quid each (cf about 8 dollars) but worth the extra,
I
> think.
>
> I got a pair of these to try out in the minibus and they're sufficiently
> impressive that I've just ordered some more - 2 more amber and 2 of the
> similar 30-LED (18 axial, 12 radial) red ones for me brake lights. I'm
> happy with the superbright ones for rear/fog lamp - but their 24-LED amber
> one is not impressive in an indicator housing. I emailed them to say so,
> but haven't seen any new products...
>
> Ultra do a 35-led one for rear/brake appications in red, as well.
>
> I see their latest offering is one with 16 LEDs all radial which they say
is
> ideal for the jewel-type modern car lamps.
>
>
> no connection, with either company. Ultra seem to be the way to go for
> indicators, especially, at the moment.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Would to God that we might spend a single day really well!"
> Thomas À Kempis (1380 - 1471) Imitation of Christ, I.xxiii.

On or around Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:12:51 +0200, "Pantelis Giamarellos"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>No connection with the company, just a VERY satisfied costumer and Austin
>thanks for recommending them.
>
>P.S. I opted on the relatively more expensive option of buying them from the
>UK based ultraleds rather from the USA based company manufacturing those LED
>"bulbs" because of the custom duties of 45% and 19% VAT and more expensive
>shipping that would be added on the cheaper USA prices in order to import
>them from a non EU country. Buying from the UK was ultimately cheaper than
>buying from the USA with the added taxes etc.

I think when I first went looking they were selling the same products, near
enough. The 35-led ones are relatively new. Also, in this country, you get
away without silly amounts of tax and duty, which makes the US ones a good
bet pricewise. The 35-led amber ones are excellent in the indicators,
though - as bright as normal 21W which the Superbright 24 ones aren't.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
If all be true that I do think, There are five reasons we should drink;
Good wine, a friend, or being dry, Or lest we should be by and by;
Or any other reason why. - Henry Aldrich (1647 - 1710)