Leaking swivel seal on 200tdi

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 14, 2017

hi lads have a leaky seal on the 1993 defo question is when seal replaced can I fill with one shot grease instead of oil also has anyone tried the cheat of cutting the seal then putting in with cut at top instead of taking all to bits.
Thanks in advance.
John

zeaphod · Feb 14, 2017

I've used the grease for years in Series and later models without any problems.

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 14, 2017

zeaphod said:
I've used the grease for years in Series and later models without any problems.

Cheers mate.

boguing · Feb 14, 2017

If you got it immaculately clean and found exactly the right superglue then I can't see any good reason not to cut it. It's a perfectly valid way of making O rings.

Your problem is the immaculately clean bit.

zeaphod · Feb 14, 2017

boguing said:
Your problem is the immaculately clean bit.

Not half, every time I go near the hubs to do anything I end up covered in oil and grease. Maybe with a new seal that you kept in a plastic bag until the last minute, then cleaned all around it, changed into a fresh pair of gloves and then glued it up....

lynall · Feb 14, 2017

Before doing anything jack up the axle and see how much play you have in the swivel bearings, if its only a little or unlikely none

then the cut seal trick with grease works well, remember to remove the garter spring before cutting the seal

neilly · Feb 14, 2017

Have you checked to see if the swivel itself is in good condition?

Just replacing the seal may not fix the problem if the swivel is pitted and rough.

Cheers

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 15, 2017

neilly said:
Have you checked to see if the swivel itself is in good condition?

Just replacing the seal may not fix the problem if the swivel is pitted and rough.

Cheers

Yes swivels are in good condition just got a leak on one side.

200tdiRob · Feb 15, 2017

Be worth buying replacement bolts that hold the seal keeper plate on before you attempt changing it. When I first done mine the heads were so small and rusted that they rounded off and were a right pig to get out.

discool · Feb 15, 2017

Johnrthrfrd said:
hi lads have a leaky seal on the 1993 defo question is when seal replaced can I fill with one shot grease instead of oil also has anyone tried the cheat of cutting the seal then putting in with cut at top instead of taking all to bits.
Thanks in advance.
John

There was a top tip I saw in the Range Rover Register news letter in the days of my RRc, and so before 'one shot' and forums, when you see the oil dripping from the seal just add grease to the oil, so I did with 10 trigger pulls of my grease gun adding grease into the swivel fill hole. It stopped the drips from the iffy seal straight away. So give it a try.

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 15, 2017

discool said:
There was a top tip I saw in the Range Rover Register news letter in the days of my RRc, and so before 'one shot' and forums, when you see the oil dripping from the seal just add grease to the oil, so I did with 10 trigger pulls of my grease gun adding grease into the swivel fill hole. It stopped the drips from the iffy seal straight away. So give it a try.

Cheers.

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 15, 2017

200tdiRob said:
Be worth buying replacement bolts that hold the seal keeper plate on before you attempt changing it. When I first done mine the heads were so small and rusted that they rounded off and were a right pig to get out.

What size were they can you remember thanks.

discool · Feb 15, 2017

Based on my belief that Defender swivels are the same as a Discoverys the size is M6x12. I'm sure 200tdiRob will confirm that. The disco part number is FS106125L

200tdiRob · Feb 15, 2017

discool said:
Based on my belief that Defender swivels are the same as a Discoverys the size is M6x12. I'm sure 200tdiRob will confirm that. The disco part number is FS106125L

Yep that's them, m6X12mm. I bought some stainless m6x12mm flanged headed bolts off eBay though to try and keep the heads from going rusty and rounding off in the future.

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 16, 2017

Thanks a lot lads for the info and help.

zeaphod · Feb 16, 2017

If you can, always try to use hex sockets and spanners on the hub bolts - much less chance of rounding off.

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 16, 2017

zeaphod said:
If you can, always try to use hex sockets and spanners on the hub bolts - much less chance of rounding off.

Thanks what size sockets are required to remove the brake calliper been told need a 12 point 13mm socket.
Thanks.

reiny · Feb 17, 2017

Yes that's correct. If you want to remove the brake discs from the hubs, you need a 12-point 14mm.

zeaphod · Feb 18, 2017

My bad - the caliper carriers and hub bolts are 12 point, I think everything else is hex. I found using hex sockets made a difference when removing the little seal retaining bolts in particular.

Johnrthrfrd · Feb 18, 2017

Thanks for all the info lads.

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