Leaking sunroofs and headlinings

Interceptorxj · Aug 22, 2018

These designs that you are slating have made the car and its components last for 20 + years (within a carefully planned budget to make the car affordable) which is well past its planned life expectancy and make it an excellent overall design and construction.

SteveG4TRA · Aug 22, 2018

Interceptorxj said:
These designs that you are slating have made the car and its components last for 20 + years (within a carefully planned budget to make the car affordable) which is well past its planned life expectancy and make it an excellent overall design and construction.

Sorry InterceptorX Some of what you say may be true, but it still doesnt make little plastic boxes silicone into the corner of a steel pressing designed to channel water away from the interior of the car a good design.

Feathers McGraw · Aug 22, 2018

Stevehh said:
Sorry InterceptorX Some of what you say may be true, but it still doesnt make little plastic boxes silicone into the corner of a steel pressing designed to channel water away from the interior of the car a good design.

It's because us Land Rover owners like tinkering with our cars

SteveG4TRA · Aug 26, 2018

Feathers McGraw said:
It's because us Land Rover owners like tinkering with our cars

The sunroofs are back in with a good thick bead of that Tiger Bond stuff all round. Both main seals have been removed and the channels cleaned. On close inspection these seals seem in good condition. The glass fixing screws have been tightened (and resealed) to pull the glass down firmer on to these seals which have a coating of Vaseline applied.
The plastic drain cups in the corner of the lower pressing have been Araldited back in and the drain tubes reattached. The rear cellular antenna (remember those) hole bung has been siliconed for added protection and the car stood out for 6 hours in the most persistent rain we have had for months.
So far no ingress of water is apparent.

SteveG4TRA · Aug 29, 2018

Stevehh said:
The sunroofs are back in with a good thick bead of that Tiger Bond stuff all round. Both main seals have been removed and the channels cleaned. On close inspection these seals seem in good condition. The glass fixing screws have been tightened (and resealed) to pull the glass down firmer on to these seals which have a coating of Vaseline applied.
The plastic drain cups in the corner of the lower pressing have been Araldited back in and the drain tubes reattached. The rear cellular antenna (remember those) hole bung has been siliconed for added protection and the car stood out for 6 hours in the most persistent rain we have had for months.
So far no ingress of water is apparent.

So on to the sagging headlining. With the ingress of water and degradation over time of the foam part of the headlining, the fabric is bound to part company with it. Initially I have tried a spray headlining adhesive but this has proved to be a total waste of time, with adhesive everywhere you don't want and none where you do want it, so at £140 for a new headlining at the local trimmers I decided to go the route of painting the base headlining. The cloth part pulled of easily and with a stiff plastic bristled brush the remaining foam was removed, revealing an almost intact inner lining still well attached to the headlining. This is in a dark blue/green, with a flock like texture and can only assume that this was part of the original headlining with the adhesive, that attached it to the heading shell. The headlining shell itself seems like a pressed foam arrangement.
Using a nice shade of light pewter water based emulsion I have painted the lining and as to be expected it soaked up the paint and took quite a time to dry, but looks good, better that the sagging lining thats for sure

meego · Aug 29, 2018

Stevehh said:
So on to the sagging headlining. With the ingress of water and degradation over time of the foam part of the headlining, the fabric is bound to part company with it. Initially I have tried a spray headlining adhesive but this has proved to be a total waste of time, with adhesive everywhere you don't want and none where you do want it, so at £140 for a new headlining at the local trimmers I decided to go the route of painting the base headlining. The cloth part pulled of easily and with a stiff plastic bristled brush the remaining foam was removed, revealing an almost intact inner lining still well attached to the headlining. This is in a dark blue/green, with a flock like texture and can only assume that this was part of the original headlining with the adhesive, that attached it to the heading shell. The headlining shell itself seems like a pressed foam arrangement.
Using a nice shade of light pewter water based emulsion I have painted the lining and as to be expected it soaked up the paint and took quite a time to dry, but looks good, better that the sagging lining thats for sure

Any photos? Was the £140 to recover your own headliner?? Sounds a good price.

SteveG4TRA · Aug 30, 2018

meego said:
Any photos? Was the £140 to recover your own headliner?? Sounds a good price.

Sorry, no photos, can just about manage a hammer, as for a camera...…..
So the whole effect is very good, the slight flock effect of the bare headlining material looks great in pale grey, and it's only when you touch it that you realise there is no foam rubber back material there. The £140 was deliver bare heading, they would clean it up ready and fit new material. Reckoned a couple hours work. That was South West Auto Trimming, Calne, Wiltshire. Had another quote for £360.
The paint was zero cost as it was already in the workshop, leftover from another job.
Anyway thanks for all your assistance lads, much appreciated

kevseabass110 · Sep 1, 2018

Stevehh said:
Sorry InterceptorX Some of what you say may be true, but it still doesnt make little plastic boxes silicone into the corner of a steel pressing designed to channel water away from the interior of the car a good design.

Yep it’s a crap design especially when the sealant used was substandard and poorly applied . RRC had the drain tubes incorporated in the sunroof tray so are metal, no problems there .

kevseabass110 · Sep 1, 2018

Make sure you get the hose pipe out and give a good soaking before putting the headlining in. I discovered the top seal of the windscreen was also leaking through lack of sealer . I used CT1 sealant for the plastic boxes and windscreen . It’s the best stuff out there for sealing and it’s bond strength is incredible .

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