Land rover freelander or toyota land cruiser

Hi i was having a mass discussion with on of me mates over which was better the
land rover freelander or the toyota land cruiser i said the land rover but he
thought otherwise is there any one who can help me on this one?

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Not had or driven either but the 2 cars you mention are in different classes

Freelander is what is classed as a soft roader where the land cruiser is
more of a proper 4x4. Selectable 4wd, diff-lock and all that while the
freelander has none of that.

Or do you mean discovery?

Steve

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Not had or driven either but the 2 cars you mention are in different
> classes
>
> Freelander is what is classed as a soft roader where the land cruiser is
> more of a proper 4x4. Selectable 4wd, diff-lock and all that while the
> freelander has none of that.
>
> Or do you mean discovery?
>
Free lander or Disco, doesnt matter they both break down
lol

Toyota every time

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> Hi i was having a mass discussion with on of me mates over which was
> better the
> land rover freelander or the toyota land cruiser i said the land rover but
> he
> thought otherwise is there any one who can help me on this one?
>
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Depends what you want it for and how much you want to spend really. I'm was
an LR owner (SIII 109 - finances required its sale :-( ) but if you want a
heavy towing vehicle or a hardcore offroader, I'd go for the Toyota. It's
well made and built ot last. The Freelander is good on the road, and not bad
at all off-road. It's ground clearance isn't huge, but I've seen them go
places that I never thought they would - steep inclines, mud, etc. If you
are offroading, the auto gearbox is probably better for the LR.

Tim A

>[...] the land cruiser is more of a proper 4x4. Selectable 4wd,
>diff-lock and all that while the freelander has none of that.

It doesn't need "that". It's got permanent 4x4 and clever gizmos to replace
the diff. I haven't manged to get mine stuck yet.

Cheers

Blippie
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Blippie (alt.aviation.roswell.wannabe.wannabe.wannabe) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

> It's got permanent 4x4 and clever gizmos to replace the diff.

"To replace the diff"? No, to manage it.

>> It's got permanent 4x4 and clever gizmos to replace the diff.

>"To replace the diff"? No, to manage it.

Quite right. Ta.

OK, so I've got 40mpg, no leaks, aircon and a CD player but I miss all the
knobs and levers of my Series III.

Cheers

Blippie
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Ten minutes of this rain will do more good in half an hour
than a fortnight of ordinary rain in a month.

> It doesn't need "that". It's got permanent 4x4 and clever gizmos to
> replace
> the diff. I haven't manged to get mine stuck yet.
>
You not been off road then? If you had been then you would have had the
landy in the repair shop after each time. One of the mobile operators used
Freelanders for there tech guys but were very dissapointed in them as they
were off the road (in a garage, not Off-road) more than on. Soon as they
were off road it seemed that there was a burning smell coming from all those
clever gadgets as they cant cope with the rough stuff that well.

Still stands though, the freelander is in a different class, for one, has a
lot less ground clearance than that of a land cruiser

Steve

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<[email protected]> writes
>
>> It doesn't need "that". It's got permanent 4x4 and clever gizmos to
>> replace
>> the diff. I haven't manged to get mine stuck yet.
>>
>You not been off road then? If you had been then you would have had the
>landy in the repair shop after each time. One of the mobile operators used
>Freelanders for there tech guys but were very dissapointed in them as they
>were off the road (in a garage, not Off-road) more than on. Soon as they
>were off road it seemed that there was a burning smell coming from all those
>clever gadgets as they cant cope with the rough stuff that well.
>
Possibly had the hill descent control on when driving normally.
>Still stands though, the freelander is in a different class, for one, has a
>lot less ground clearance than that of a land cruiser
>
>Steve
>
>
They are on a different scale. More appropriate to compare with Defender
or Disco I would have thought.
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hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

I think I'd look for real off road use and emulate them.
ie africa oz etc


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> Hi i was having a mass discussion with on of me mates over which was
better the
> land rover freelander or the toyota land cruiser i said the land rover but
he
> thought otherwise is there any one who can help me on this one?
>
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Depends what you want to do with it, The freelander is a great fun car
both on and off road in my experience yes I have got it stuck but do
did a range rover and mistibushi. The frelander blongs to the wife and
she sings its praise all day long must admit I called her recently
when i drove out of the village and found a lovely spot of black ice
and asked had she got through ok her comment oh is that why traaction
control ran for a few seconds arrrrrrr. In a landcuriser shed have
slid sideways I dont doubt because 4wd wouldnt have been on etc etc.
The freelander does everything for you with regard to 4x4 and does it
very cleverly.

Having said that I had an toyota amazon and loved it and you could
move 7 people around in relative comfort.

These 2 dont really compare probably close between a freelander and a
rav 4.




On 14 Feb 2005 21:00:38 GMT, "waker171986" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hi i was having a mass discussion with on of me mates over which was better the
>land rover freelander or the toyota land cruiser i said the land rover but he
>thought otherwise is there any one who can help me on this one?
>
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>>I haven't manged to get mine stuck yet.

>You not been off road then?

Er, yes. Lots. Fair to say, though, I don't tackle anything I consider to
be potentially damaging or requiring high clearance. I leave that to the
Defenders.

The Freelander performs suprisingly well on poor traction surfaces - used it
to tow a bogged down Disco last year!

Cheers

Blippie
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Ten minutes of this rain will do more good in half an hour
than a fortnight of ordinary rain in a month.

Blippie schrieb:

> The Freelander performs suprisingly well on poor traction surfaces - used it
> to tow a bogged down Disco last year!
>
> Cheers

Well, a 'surprise' is well defined by the reference point being the basis for
your judgement.
To nullify this I'd suggest to simply follow me or several other guys from this
NG on their trails. This may well lead to a qualified re-adjustment.

Axel

"Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Not had or driven either but the 2 cars you mention are in different
> classes
>
> Freelander is what is classed as a soft roader where the land cruiser is
> more of a proper 4x4. Selectable 4wd, diff-lock and all that while the
> freelander has none of that.
>
> Or do you mean discovery?
>
> Steve
>

I have not seen a selectable four wheel drive Land Cruiser officially sold
in the UK for nearly ten years.

Huw

"waker171986" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi i was having a mass discussion with on of me mates over which was
> better the
> land rover freelander or the toyota land cruiser i said the land rover but
> he
> thought otherwise is there any one who can help me on this one?
>

The Toyota rival for Freelander is the Rav4. The Land Rover rival to
Landcruiser 90/Colorado is Discovery. The 'proper' LC 100/Amazon rivals the
Range Rover very closely.

Huw

waker171986 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi i was having a mass discussion with on of me mates over which was
> better the land rover freelander or the toyota land cruiser i said the
> land rover but he thought otherwise is there any one who can help me on
> this one?

You're wrong, HTH. In fact you're wrong for just about any value of Land
Rover, let alone the godawful on-roader that is the Freelander.

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

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> They are on a different scale. More appropriate to compare with Defender
> or Disco I would have thought.

Easy, Land Cruiser moderately good on-road, very good off-road.

Defender, Disco, who knows? You'll spend every moment of ownership with
the vehicle laid up in a garage to have yet another fault fixed. If you
own either, budget at least £2K per annum for repair bills, and expect
to spend a lot of time off work.

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

waker171986 ([email protected]) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

> Hi i was having a mass discussion with on of me mates over which was
> better the land rover freelander or the toyota land cruiser

If it's the big LandCruiser, the Amazon, you could probably hang a
Freelunch off the tailgate on davits, like the tender dinghy to a yacht.

"Steve
> Defender, Disco, who knows? You'll spend every moment of ownership with
> the vehicle laid up in a garage to have yet another fault fixed. If you
> own either, budget at least £2K per annum for repair bills, and expect
> to spend a lot of time off work.
>

Not true, had a Defenfer for 7 years ( from new ). I have looked after it,
usual service intervals. So far in 7 years : rear diff seal (warranty),
alarm, cam belt at 50k ( I change em early ), new security lock nut undoer
!, usual service bills and thats it.
The reason why some get a bad rep is because they are abused to the extent
that some of the other types would simply cease to function. After all how
many of the others mentioned do you see around after 15 years ? try the
middle of an out of the way region and try to get your ecu and electric
window fixed by the local balcksmith.

Was'nt it the special forces in Iraq who repaired a bent track rod behind
the lines with some explosive lit with a match to heat it enough that it
could be bashed back into shape ?

I would'nt rubbish anything on the heresay evidence of other peoples
opinions, rather stick to what you like and let everybody else do the same
in peace. If you want a serious discussion for some purchase in mind; decide
if you truley want a real off roader or a toy to pose in, then look for your
car, Strange as it may seem LR has quite a following of very experienced
people and at the last count 4 monthly magazines devoted to it on the
newsagents stands. Can't recall any other car make having that much market
presence in the news stands.