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The Mad Hat Man said:
I agree entirely. yu can have the same boat?? and depending on the paddle it could be either :(.
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No. The boats might look similar but inside the cockpit will be very different. Closed cockpit kayaks have a seat & closed cockpit canoes have a saddle. Etienne & Stott in the first picture are kneeling in a closed cockpit canoe & Swetnam in the second picture is sitting in a closed cockpit kayak. Having paddled both the former is unbelievably painful whilst the second isn't!
 
gargoyle said:
No. The boats might look similar but inside the cockpit will be very different. Closed cockpit kayaks have a seat & closed cockpit canoes have a saddle. Etienne & Stott in the first picture are kneeling in a closed cockpit canoe & Swetnam in the second picture is sitting in a closed cockpit kayak. Having paddled both the former is unbelievably painful whilst the second isn't!
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Feck would I canoe anymore.
 
Agree with Gargoyle.

C1 paddling hurts your stick and berries when you take a hit! :eek: Which is pretty much all the time when your paddling grade 3 or above. Anything less is just a bimble down a stream :D

I still have a playboat but i decide a few years ago i was never any good so i just use it in the pool now. lol. Stick to my Creeker with padding. :lol:

To the OP: You will struggle to find a decent open boat(canoe) for cheap, decent boats go for decent money im afraid. Just keep scouring eBay. If you find summit with a hole in, and you dont want to do serious water in it then get it plastic welded. or look it up on youtube(tis what i did)

Good luck. :)
 
il keep looking mate not wanting to do out serious just want to test the water so to speak to see if it is ok :D thats why i was looking at inflatable type kayaks :D
 
The inflatable ones are quite a good idea if you just want to potter about. I've used one on the sea & it all fitted into a big rucksack so you didn't need a roofrack.
 
SnowmanV8 said:
No guessing for me. Was using the proper definition top and seating is the real difference the oar should never come into it.
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I agree with you - I think its daft. Unfortunately neither the BCU or the Olympic committee do.
here is an extract from the BCU....

"The term 'canoeing' in the UK is generally used by the public to incorporate both canoeing and kayaking. The difference being that the term 'canoeing' should refer to paddling an open canoe (the sort used by the North American Indians and Trappers). Kayaks however are a closed cockpit boat based on the vessels used by the North America Insuit, also known as Eskimos.

What is a Canoe
A canoe is a boat which can be between 10' and 17'6" long and usually paddled using a single bladed paddle or paddles but can also be sailed. With the addition of a small electric outboard motor the craft can also propelled up or down river with ease. A Canadian Canoe is pointed at both ends and usually open on top, but can be covered. A great way for the whole family to spend their recreational time, getting away from it all on local and national waterways. Loved by fishermen it can be quietly paddled into places where other boats are unable to go and fish may be frightened away. Loads of room for fishing gear, camping equipment or just your picnic basket. Nowadays mainly constructed from various forms of plastic, multi-layered to give inherent buoyancy.


What is a Kayak
A kayak is a small craft designed to be paddled by either one or two people. It typically has a covered deck with a cockpit(s) where the paddler(s) sit. This can then be covered by a spraydeck to keep the paddler dry and warm. It is paddled with a double-bladed paddle or paddles if it is a double kayak. The kayak was originally developed by native Aleut and Inuit hunters in sub-arctic regions of North America and Greenland. Modern kayaks come in a wide variety of designs and materials for paddling on flat water, moving water and the sea. There are also kayaks called 'Sit-ons' which which have an open deck and are mainly used on the sea, but can be paddled on flat water. These are a relatively new type of boat and are becoming extremely popular."
 
gargoyle said:
The inflatable ones are quite a good idea if you just want to potter about. I've used one on the sea & it all fitted into a big rucksack so you didn't need a roofrack.
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ive had a go at pack rafting.

I ended up in the river more times than actually paddling but agreed there good for a potter on the lake or canal. On anything moving, there a PITA. :lol:
 
Ive tried a few inflatable sit on kayaks and find you need to work a lot harder to keep it going.

We now use a 3 seater sit on kayak LINK We have been very pleased with it. extremely stable and its helping get my kids confident on the water. Its also manageable in the surf.
 
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