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peter8315

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just won 1986 rangie with 68,000 miles from new mint condition with mazda 3 ltr turbo diesel fitted, anybody know wether this would be ok with veggie, its the mazda/ perkins, ebay no121463801506,
 
just won 1986 rangie with 68,000 miles from new mint condition with mazda 3 ltr turbo diesel fitted, anybody know wether this would be ok with veggie, its the mazda/ perkins, ebay no121463801506,


Looks nice mate. I like. Not a fan of the interior colour though, I'd be wanting to get it all leathered up :D
 
nice, i wouldnt be mad on the interior either but can easily be changed if you feel the same. nice looking classic though and lots and lots of paper work. always a good sign it was well kept by an enthusiast.
 
Well finally got the rangie home on saturday, had an issue with the gear selector being so stiff i had to pull it back with two hands, and was a bit dissatisfied with the performance from the 3ltr mazda/ perkins engine through the auto box and i don't think it will pull my caravan, so i am planning to fit a disco 5 speed manual box, and i think it will perform better and be more fuel efficient,has anybody ever done this?, will the disco box fit as i have one lying about with the flywheel and clutch
 
Well finally got the rangie home on saturday, had an issue with the gear selector being so stiff i had to pull it back with two hands, and was a bit dissatisfied with the performance from the 3ltr mazda/ perkins engine through the auto box and i don't think it will pull my caravan, so i am planning to fit a disco 5 speed manual box, and i think it will perform better and be more fuel efficient,has anybody ever done this?, will the disco box fit as i have one lying about with the flywheel and clutch
If it doesn't go with the auto box, can't see it would be a lot better with a manual box, better to swap or fix the engine IMO.
 
i allways think that the early auto boxes sapped to much power from the engine ie ratio's to far apart, and that your more in control with a manual, and from what i have read backs it up plus they drink fuel coupled to an auto, just wondered if anybody else had done it
 
i allways think that the early auto boxes sapped to much power from the engine ie ratio's to far apart, and that your more in control with a manual, and from what i have read backs it up plus they drink fuel coupled to an auto, just wondered if anybody else had done it
How early is the box? If it's a ZF4HP22 it will have torque convertor lock up. No big diference in fuel consumption and they mask a lack of low down torque nicely.
 
Well finally got the rangie home on saturday, had an issue with the gear selector being so stiff i had to pull it back with two hands, and was a bit dissatisfied with the performance from the 3ltr mazda/ perkins engine through the auto box and i don't think it will pull my caravan, so i am planning to fit a disco 5 speed manual box, and i think it will perform better and be more fuel efficient,has anybody ever done this?, will the disco box fit as i have one lying about with the flywheel and clutch

Well it's got a JCB engine in it so why not fit a JCB gearbox?
 
Ahh Warmers, such a silvered tongue devil!

Yeah i know. Thing is he says Mazda/Perkins. Now i know Mazda made a few Perkins engines under licence. But seeing as how Perkins as far as i am aware, have never made a six cylinder three litre engine. Think it maybe a pure Jap engine. Perkins are a work horse engine with a stroke longer than Kate Middletons legs. They are or were not, when i had dealings with them, something you would fit to go to a sprint meeting and hope to take a prize. :D
 
Yeah i know. Thing is he says Mazda/Perkins. Now i know Mazda made a few Perkins engines under licence. But seeing as how Perkins as far as i am aware, have never made a six cylinder three litre engine. Think it maybe a pure Jap engine. Perkins are a work horse engine with a stroke longer than Kate Middletons legs. They are or were not, when i had dealings with them, something you would fit to go to a sprint meeting and hope to take a prize. :D

Had a mate who was putting a P6354T into a Mk 10 Jag running it through an E type g/box and a Yanky diff. The diff housing had to be built to fit the rear subframe. Don't know if he ever finished the project as we lost contact. Working out the rev's and ratio's on a slide rule (it was in the seventies) he thought the top speed would be over 150 mph. He had a scrapper and bought a new body shell for £420 from the main dealers in Chester when they were clearing out the spares dept.:)
 
Had a mate who was putting a P6354T into a Mk 10 Jag running it through an E type g/box and a Yanky diff. The diff housing had to be built to fit the rear subframe. Don't know if he ever finished the project as we lost contact. Working out the rev's and ratio's on a slide rule (it was in the seventies) he thought the top speed would be over 150 mph. He had a scrapper and bought a new body shell for £420 from the main dealers in Chester when they were clearing out the spares dept.:)

As far as i recall the 6.354 5.8 litre straight six only revved at around 2800 RPM absolute max. So he must have fitted a hell of a diff for 150 MPH. :D:D:D
 
As far as i recall the 6.354 5.8 litre straight six only revved at around 2800 RPM absolute max. So he must have fitted a hell of a diff for 150 MPH. :D:D:D

Quite correct that's why he went for a Yanky one. It was the 6.354T (turbo) and I must correct myself, it was a 5 speed ZF he was fitting. The E type g/box was mated to a 4 cylinder Perkins 4.203 I think that was in another Mk10 that he used as his daily runabout.:D
 
Quite correct that's why he went for a Yanky one. It was the 6.354T (turbo) and I must correct myself, it was a 5 speed ZF he was fitting. The E type g/box was mated to a 4 cylinder Perkins 4.203 I think that was in another Mk10 that he used as his daily runabout.:D

6/354 were a great engine, not really about speed, but great low down torque if you can keep the halfshafts and diffs intact :D I have seen them fitted in a Rangie years ago, not the turbo engine, just the na version.

4/203 must be seriously underpowered in that application I would have thought.
 
6/354 were a great engine, not really about speed, but great low down torque if you can keep the halfshafts and diffs intact :D I have seen them fitted in a Rangie years ago, not the turbo engine, just the na version.

4/203 must be seriously underpowered in that application I would have thought.

Only guessing at the 4 cylinder engine, it certainly wasn't the 4.108 ha ah. It was 3 ltr or above and could show a clean pair of heels to a normal family car and return 30 mpg. The gearbox had o/drive as I remember. I also saw a 6.354 in a Classic, it had an extended nose, twin headlights and two radiators fitted at the side of the engine (like the single rad on the 6 cylinder VM). I put a BMC engine in a Vanden Plas 4ltr R with a manual g/box, 4spd o/drive and free wheel out of a Westminster 6/110. 54 to the gallon, better than the 9 with the petrol engine.:D:D Great times
 
Only guessing at the 4 cylinder engine, it certainly wasn't the 4.108 ha ah. It was 3 ltr or above and could show a clean pair of heels to a normal family car and return 30 mpg. The gearbox had o/drive as I remember. I also saw a 6.354 in a Classic, it had an extended nose, twin headlights and two radiators fitted at the side of the engine (like the single rad on the 6 cylinder VM). I put a BMC engine in a Vanden Plas 4ltr R with a manual g/box, 4spd o/drive and free wheel out of a Westminster 6/110. 54 to the gallon, better than the 9 with the petrol engine.:D:D Great times

4/203 or 4/236 were often fitted in ladies years ago.:D I have had 4/203 before, as you say, they are very economical, and so much torque they weren't bad off the lights, but very slow top end. My s2a had Ascroft high range tranny box, some had Fairey o/d instead.

I have also had BMC in a series, and found them economical and reliable, though a tad slow on the road. Great times indeed :D:D
 
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