Just received a LEZ penelty charge

Hi All,

Im looking for some info here. I just received a £750 LEZ Penelty for driving my Defender 110 CSW in London in January. Apparently it was £500 with the first letter I didn't receive. Anyhoo...

Does anyone have some individual rear seats. I have bench seats which it turns out are liable to the charge. GRRRRRRR, why dont they make this patently obvious.

Anyone fought this and won?

Rather pee'd off from Colchester

They kind of do....sorry. ..all you needed to do was put your reg into the website and it tells you if you're compliant or not...which is how I know I can't take my daughter to uni in it ( without it costing me a £100 a day.)...and there are signs all over the place saying you're about to enter the zone.

110woman said:

They kind of do....sorry. ..all you needed to do was put your reg into the website and it tells you if you're compliant or not...which is how I know I can't take my daughter to uni in it ( without it costing me a £100 a day.)...and there are signs all over the place saying you're about to enter the zone.

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Really....? You don't happen to have the address of that website do you please.?! It sounds rather useful not that my old girl would ever make it that far. hehe Thanks

I would assume it would make little difference if you were to add aftermarket seats. I suspect the vehicle must have been classified as such at point of registration. (I could be wrong )

Landyfox said:

Really....? You don't happen to have the address of that website do you please.?! It sounds rather useful not that my old girl would ever make it that far. hehe Thanks

I would assume it would make little difference if you were to add aftermarket seats. I suspect the vehicle must have been classified as such at point of registration. (I could be wrong )

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https://lowemissionzone.tfl.gov.uk/b/pb/lezComplianceProvideVRM.faces?referrer=lez

£750? Good grief. You'd get less of a drubbing if you robbed a house to pay the LEZ charge.

Is it a genuine factory build station wagon as I was led to believe they were okay for the LEZ?
Iirc theres a specific letter in the vin number that denotes it as an original station wagon

I have a csw ...on the v5...its not compliant

110woman said:

I have a csw ...on the v5...its not compliant

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Lol my un catayst v8 is

Dippypud said:

https://lowemissionzone.tfl.gov.uk/b/pb/lezComplianceProvideVRM.faces?referrer=lez

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Says my 90 hardtop is not subject to lez!

What a load of crap, so every discovery in London with the same engine in is OK but a defender isn't

You've probably seen this but it looks like you're stuffed to me


Land Rovers

We have worked with Land Rover to establish which vehicles with the body type of 'Light 4x4 Utility Vehicle' are subject to the LEZ. Vehicles manufactured before 1973 are considered to be 'historic' vehicles and are exempt from the LEZ.

The vehicles listed below are subject to the LEZ standards:

All Defenders; 88s, 90s, 109s, 110s, 127 and 130s (except station wagon variants see below)
All Defenders manufactured with 10 or more seats including the driver's seat
Freelander Commercial
Discovery or Discovery Series 2 Commercial
Conversions (eg ambulance, motor home)
The following vehicles are not subject to LEZ as they are classed as 'estates':

Defender, 88, 90, 109 and 110 station wagon variants up to nine seats inc the drivers
A small number of Defenders 90s and 110s may be a 'station wagon' but may not be classified as such by the DVLA. This means vehicles with side and rear windows manufactured with fixed seating throughout the vehicle including the area accessed via the back door and there are nine seats or less including the driver's seat. Please note that vehicles without fixed seating throughout will not be treated as an estate and will be subject to LEZ. Fixed seating means individual seats with seat belts. It does not include benches or homemade seating variants.

If your vehicle meets this criterion it will not be subject to the LEZ. In these circumstances if you intend to use the vehicle in the LEZ you need to:

For models registered from 1998 - correct the body type description, vehicle model details and/or number of seats with the DVLA and provide photographic proof
For models registered before 1998 - register your vehicle with TfL with suitable photographic proofs showing all sides of the vehicles with all doors open which clearly shows the entire internal seating arrangements.
Certain vehicles meet the Euro 3 standard because they are early adopters:

All Defenders, 90s, 110s, 127s and 130s manufactured after 6 August 2001
Freelander Commercial manufactured after 14 September 2000
Discovery or Discovery Series 2 Commercial manufactured after 2 July 2001
Conversions (eg ambulance, motor home) manufactured after 2 January 2002
We've updated our database to reflect these vehicles' emissions standards.

If you have a Land Rover which is not listed above, please contact us to find out if your vehicle is subject to LEZ.

All for the olympics that have been and gone.

Yeah i have just checked and mine isn't subjected to it either

According to the checker my CSW isnt subject to LEZ either

Is it because it's a 2001>

The early ones had 12 seats IIRC so are classed as a commercial as they only allow up to 9 inc the driver now

Had this a couple of months back, my 90 pick up is non compliant even though there checker said it was exempt....they wrote back to me saying it was an error on their system which has now been corrected....

Checked for fun 02 TD5 90 CSW - Not Subject to LEZ

They have this too

Please note: In some circumstances the compliance checker may not provide the correct compliance status for your vehicle. If your vehicle is less than 3.5 tonnes and was registered with the DVLA between July 2000 to January 2002, please call us on 0845 607 0009 to check the compliance status of your vehicle.

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Christ, this thread has scared me off from ever entering London with even a Smart Car!! Are you going to seek any legal advice on this? Will be interesting to see how this turns out.. (Not a genuine pig or anything)

Well it aint hard to just check the website... The majority have smart phones now so when you see a sign, pull over, check the site and see.

wack61 said:

What a load of crap, so every discovery in London with the same engine in is OK but a defender isn't

You've probably seen this but it looks like you're stuffed to me


Land Rovers

We have worked with Land Rover to establish which vehicles with the body type of 'Light 4x4 Utility Vehicle' are subject to the LEZ. Vehicles manufactured before 1973 are considered to be 'historic' vehicles and are exempt from the LEZ.

The vehicles listed below are subject to the LEZ standards:

All Defenders; 88s, 90s, 109s, 110s, 127 and 130s (except station wagon variants see below)
All Defenders manufactured with 10 or more seats including the driver's seat
Freelander Commercial
Discovery or Discovery Series 2 Commercial
Conversions (eg ambulance, motor home)
The following vehicles are not subject to LEZ as they are classed as 'estates':

Defender, 88, 90, 109 and 110 station wagon variants up to nine seats inc the drivers
A small number of Defenders 90s and 110s may be a 'station wagon' but may not be classified as such by the DVLA. This means vehicles with side and rear windows manufactured with fixed seating throughout the vehicle including the area accessed via the back door and there are nine seats or less including the driver's seat. Please note that vehicles without fixed seating throughout will not be treated as an estate and will be subject to LEZ. Fixed seating means individual seats with seat belts. It does not include benches or homemade seating variants.

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I have a 4x4 light utility according to my V5, and I'm not subject to the LEZ. Mines a 90 TD5, but I've got individual seats in the rear which must help....

Doesnt matter if you have seats, windows or flying hamsters in the back its down to what its registered as and how the DVLA fancy seeing it.

69 Mustangs are exempt yet do about 5mpg with near enough zero filters