Is a landrover 90 station wagon a car or commercial vehicle?

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headintheclouds said:
My understanding is that Defenders 90 and 110 should be ok on car speed limits as they qualify as dual purpose vehicles due to 4WD.There is a weight limit so 130 may not qualify.
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That is useful, I will have a search and see if I can come up with an official statement. I have erred on the cautious side as the chap I bought mine from said he had received a 'caution' whilst driving through a manned speed trap.
 
l don't drive my 110 at 70mph anyway, while it will do it, it's happier at an indicated 65mph.

Which according to my GPS is 62mph. lf you want to drive at 70-80 for long distances then l would suggest an alternative vehicle
 
If you drive a "dual purpose vehicle" a pick up with four doors, five seats ,four wheel drive and an unladen weight of no more than 2040 kg you can drive at " car" speeds, heavier than that you are restricted to 50mph on A roads and 60mph on motorways.
 
Galladog said:
If you drive a "dual purpose vehicle" a pick up with four doors, five seats ,four wheel drive and an unladen weight of no more than 2040 kg you can drive at " car" speeds, heavier than that you are restricted to 50mph on A roads and 60mph on motorways.
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I have found the official gov statement here https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...es/car-derived-vans-and-dual-purpose-vehicles

Dual purpose vehicles
A dual purpose vehicle is a vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage both of passengers and of goods and designed to weigh no more than 2,040 kg when unladen, and is either:

  • constructed or adapted so that the driving power of the engine is, or can be selected to be, transmitted to all wheels of the vehicle
My 90 is only 1795kgs unladen so good for national speed limits :) this has dispelled a myth so thanks to the OP for posing the question!
 
Check out "Dual Purpose Vehicle" on Gov.UK

A dual purpose vehicle is a vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage both of passengers and of goods and designed to weigh no more than 2,040 kg when unladen, and is either:

  • constructed or adapted so that the driving power of the engine is, or can be selected to be, transmitted to all wheels of the vehicle
or

  • permanently fitted with a rigid roof, at least one row of transverse passenger seats to the rear of the driver’s seat and will have side and rear windows - there must also be a minimum ratio between the size of passenger and stowage areas
I Googled the Unladen weight of 90 and 110 and both seem to be below 2,040kg.

My son got a notice of intended prosecution for driving a Vito Dualiner at 62 on a dual carriageway. I sent off details and pictures to prove it is a dual purpose vehicle and the prosecution went away.
 
lightning said:
l don't drive my 110 at 70mph anyway, while it will do it, it's happier at an indicated 65mph.

Which according to my GPS is 62mph. lf you want to drive at 70-80 for long distances then l would suggest an alternative vehicle
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Agreed, but getting stung for over 50MPH on an A road would be bad, so it's good to know what the rules are and how to reply if the police get over zealous.
 
philclarke said:
Had this with a vw transporter.
Think it’s on your regeneration docs. M1 Vs N1.
Hope that helps.
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That's the thing, older vehicles do not have that. Mine says Light 4x4 Utility with a taxation class of PLG. Still I think it is clear from the gov website we are good to go with 90 & 110 :)
 
Did a bit more research for my 2012 xs 90 station wagon today. The taxation class is N1. The V5c says the body type is Light Utility 4x4. The gov.uk website defines a dual purpose vehicle, mine fits the definition. The same website, on speed limits for various types of vehicle, confirms dual purpose vehicles have the same speed limits as cars. So I say the taxation class has nothing to do with speed limits, it depends on the registered body type.
 
headintheclouds said:
My understanding is that Defenders 90 and 110 should be ok on car speed limits as they qualify as dual purpose vehicles due to 4WD.There is a weight limit so 130 may not qualify.
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Unfortunately when it comes to speeding it is how the vehicle is registered at the DVLA / on your V5. I got done for speeding at 61 mph in Wales on a dual carriage way automatic camera , when i appealed it I was told it was due to 'Class of vehicle' , when I argued that even if I was limited to 60 on a dual carriage way surely the 1 mph over should be tolerated for speedo inaccuracy. The reply was that any tolerances are set by the Chief Constable of the region and that the Chief constable for that area was operating a zero tolerance policy for all crime. I was issued with a fine and three points.
 
They are swines in Wales, my friend got a ticket for 31mph

He appealed but was told his "speedometer was almost certainly reading over the actual speed of 31mph so he was intentionally speeding"
 
My guess is that the M1 or N1 designation is what is used by the system to trigger a notice of intended prosecution. You need to know the rules and be ready to provide details if they come after you. As far as I can tell almost all 90 and 110 Defenders are indeed dual purpose vehicles due to 4wd so body style is irrelevant.
 
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