improving heat in 93 YJ

i have a 93 YJ with a soft top. due to monetary considerations, it does
not have a hard top for the winter, and due to off-road conditions, has
no carpets either.

in the winter, since i'm probably just insane or just very well
insulated, i have no problems with wearing a a coat whilst in the driver
seat. however, some of my non-jeep friends (no, can't get trade em for
'jeep-friends') have the most common complaint about the lack of heat,
especially in the rear seat.

i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.

probably a lost cause, heheheh.
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Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader

MudPuppy1976 <"moc.rr.pacyn"@67lamina did pass the time by typing:

> i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
> alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
> available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.

You could look a replacing the stock blower moter with a beefier unit.
http://www.bc4x4.com/chrisw/projects/heatermotor/hmotor.asp

or similar


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HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors

Put an auxiliary space heater using engine coolant in place of the stock
console, or inside it. http://www.jcwhitney.com Keyword Search for
"Auxiliary Space Heater" brings up several potentially useful products.
These would be a tight fit in a YJ but I am confident you can do it. Please
post some pictures when you figure something out. ;o)

Earle

"MudPuppy1976 <"moc.rr.pacyn"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote in message
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> i have a 93 YJ with a soft top. due to monetary considerations, it does
> not have a hard top for the winter, and due to off-road conditions, has
> no carpets either.
>
> in the winter, since i'm probably just insane or just very well
> insulated, i have no problems with wearing a a coat whilst in the driver
> seat. however, some of my non-jeep friends (no, can't get trade em for
> 'jeep-friends') have the most common complaint about the lack of heat,
> especially in the rear seat.
>
> i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
> alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
> available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.
>
> probably a lost cause, heheheh.
> --
> Ben Jerew
> ASE Master Technician
> New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
> Amateur Off-Roader
>

What temperature thermostat are you running in the engine??? If it's too
cool, your heater won't put out much heat at all. Make darned sure the
correct thermostat is installed... or if you don't know, just install the
right one per the thermostat guide book.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"MudPuppy1976 <"moc.rr.pacyn"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote in message
news:7gilb.12211$%[email protected]...
> i have a 93 YJ with a soft top. due to monetary considerations, it does
> not have a hard top for the winter, and due to off-road conditions, has
> no carpets either.
>
> in the winter, since i'm probably just insane or just very well
> insulated, i have no problems with wearing a a coat whilst in the driver
> seat. however, some of my non-jeep friends (no, can't get trade em for
> 'jeep-friends') have the most common complaint about the lack of heat,
> especially in the rear seat.
>
> i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
> alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
> available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.
>
> probably a lost cause, heheheh.
> --
> Ben Jerew
> ASE Master Technician
> New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
> Amateur Off-Roader
>

i installed the OE t-stat when i bought it last march, and the heat
definitely works the tstat that was in it was cracked and i couldn't
get the engine temp over 150. the temp typically sits at 210 to 215, 200
in the winter with a cover over the grille.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> What temperature thermostat are you running in the engine??? If it's too
> cool, your heater won't put out much heat at all. Make darned sure the
> correct thermostat is installed... or if you don't know, just install the
> right one per the thermostat guide book.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "MudPuppy1976 <"moc.rr.pacyn"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote in message
> news:7gilb.12211$%[email protected]...
>
>>i have a 93 YJ with a soft top. due to monetary considerations, it does
>>not have a hard top for the winter, and due to off-road conditions, has
>>no carpets either.
>>
>>in the winter, since i'm probably just insane or just very well
>>insulated, i have no problems with wearing a a coat whilst in the driver
>>seat. however, some of my non-jeep friends (no, can't get trade em for
>>'jeep-friends') have the most common complaint about the lack of heat,
>>especially in the rear seat.
>>
>>i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
>>alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
>>available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.
>>
>>probably a lost cause, heheheh.


--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader

MudPuppy1976 wrote:

> i have a 93 YJ with a soft top. due to monetary considerations, it does
> not have a hard top for the winter, and due to off-road conditions, has
> no carpets either.
>
> in the winter, since i'm probably just insane or just very well
> insulated, i have no problems with wearing a a coat whilst in the driver
> seat. however, some of my non-jeep friends (no, can't get trade em for
> 'jeep-friends') have the most common complaint about the lack of heat,
> especially in the rear seat.
>
> i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
> alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
> available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.
>
> probably a lost cause, heheheh.
When I bought my 2000 S-10 my winter experiance with my old 88 told me it
would be cold in the winter so I started before the first winter to make it
warmer. I found this stuff in the hardware store that looks like bubble
wrap sandwiched between aluminum foil. They had a small part folded up
like a bag and you would stick your hand in and it reflects your body heat
and in a few seconds your hand feels warm and sweaty. I pulled out the
whole interrior of my s-10 and used aluminum tape and covered all the metal
with this stuff. First winter I found that the hearer was much better than
my old one and even on the coldest below zero days I still haven't even
turned the heat up full yet.

I know they make some auxillery heaters that you can plumb into the
cooling system but that would be a pain in the rear. Some of the big
trucks (peterbilt and kenworth) offer this option... Its basically a
small heater that mounts in the floor right behind the drivers seat.
Has a small heater core thats plumbed to the cooling system and a
electric fan that blows across the core. Not sure I would want that
on a jeep...

Easy way out might be to upgrade alternator and go with a ceramic
heater.. I've never used a ceramic heater so I don't know if they are
worth having or not.

Maybe you could come up with some way of running a duct from the
heating system back under the front seats to feed hot air to the
rear??




On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:17:39 GMT, "MudPuppy1976
<\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote:

>i have a 93 YJ with a soft top. due to monetary considerations, it does
>not have a hard top for the winter, and due to off-road conditions, has
>no carpets either.
>
>in the winter, since i'm probably just insane or just very well
>insulated, i have no problems with wearing a a coat whilst in the driver
>seat. however, some of my non-jeep friends (no, can't get trade em for
>'jeep-friends') have the most common complaint about the lack of heat,
>especially in the rear seat.
>
>i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
>alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
>available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.
>
>probably a lost cause, heheheh.

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Elbert Clarke
elbert.clarke**@us.army.mil
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that's probably not too bad an idea if coupled with getting a beefier
blower out of an S10. i think i could route some ducting over the trans
tunnel without too much difficulty.

Elbert wrote:
> I know they make some auxillery heaters that you can plumb into the
> cooling system but that would be a pain in the rear. Some of the big
> trucks (peterbilt and kenworth) offer this option... Its basically a
> small heater that mounts in the floor right behind the drivers seat.
> Has a small heater core thats plumbed to the cooling system and a
> electric fan that blows across the core. Not sure I would want that
> on a jeep...
>
> Easy way out might be to upgrade alternator and go with a ceramic
> heater.. I've never used a ceramic heater so I don't know if they are
> worth having or not.
>
> Maybe you could come up with some way of running a duct from the
> heating system back under the front seats to feed hot air to the
> rear??
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:17:39 GMT, "MudPuppy1976
> <\"moc.rr.pacyn\"@67lamina" <--BACKWARDS> wrote:
>
>
>>i have a 93 YJ with a soft top. due to monetary considerations, it does
>>not have a hard top for the winter, and due to off-road conditions, has
>>no carpets either.
>>
>>in the winter, since i'm probably just insane or just very well
>>insulated, i have no problems with wearing a a coat whilst in the driver
>>seat. however, some of my non-jeep friends (no, can't get trade em for
>>'jeep-friends') have the most common complaint about the lack of heat,
>>especially in the rear seat.
>>
>>i'm not even thinking about those awful ceramic heaters to cook my
>>alternator. just wondering if there are any other alternatives or mods
>>available other than tossing another blanket to the back seat.
>>
>>probably a lost cause, heheheh.


--
Ben Jerew
ASE Master Technician
New Country Lexus of Latham, NY
Amateur Off-Roader