Series 3 ID needed, long bonnet but no Stage1 model

300bhp/ton · Apr 25, 2018

Looks to be a full width rad with intercooler. Which might be why they moved the panel forward to clear the steering relay, as it wouldn’t fit otherwise. There was also a phase of putting Defender bonnets on Series motors. So might just have been for the look. The lower dash is also 90 and the VIN plate is in an odd place and also not of Series vintage. Gearbox has the difflock leaver behind the gearstick, so probably from a 90 or converted.

Can’t see the turbo. But guess it has one as it has the intercooler. Guessing it might be low mounted as per a Disco.

tottot · Apr 25, 2018

Bulkhead bonnet hinges are 90/110.
This set up with the 5 speed box will be full time 4 wheel drive without the benefit of CV's in the front axle [ unless it has an early 110 4 x 2 transferbox, very rare ]
It does work but steering can feel strange at times on the lock.
The only way to use the free wheel hubs would be to drive in diff lock and that would be pointless.

Turboman · Apr 25, 2018

markusGER said:
Here are some pics. Can upload more if requested.

If that was mine, I wouldn't be happy with the air cleaner. Either the location or the actual nature of it.

Extreedoc said:
Well, that doesn't look like a Disco gearbox. Can't really understand why they moved the grille panel.

Make more room to get the much larger rad and intercooler in, and so the bonnet catches shut.

jamesmartin · Apr 25, 2018

tottot said:
Bulkhead bonnet hinges are 90/110.
This set up with the 5 speed box will be full time 4 wheel drive without the benefit of CV's in the front axle [ unless it has an early 110 4 x 2 transferbox, very rare ]
It does work but steering can feel strange at times on the lock.
The only way to use the free wheel hubs would be to drive in diff lock and that would be pointless.

you can get a 2wd kit that fits in center diff if gives 4wd when you select diff lock its what i fit to 5 speed conversions

Hicap phill · Apr 25, 2018

It's a 300tdi Landrover engine.

Get a pipe on the engine breather
Otherwise you will have crap into the engine

tottot · Apr 25, 2018

It's a 200 Disco engine.
I would fit a defender paper element filter unit.There is plenty of room.

300bhp/ton · Apr 25, 2018

jamesmartin said:
you can get a 2wd kit that fits in center diff if gives 4wd when you select diff lock its what i fit to 5 speed conversions

Yep. As used by the Santana PS-10 also.

Turboman · Apr 25, 2018

tottot said:
It's a 200 Disco engine.
I would fit a defender paper element filter unit.There is plenty of room.

Or an oil bath unit from a Series 3. Anything would be better than that silly little K&N copy.

tottot · Apr 25, 2018

My 2.5 TD had a paper element filter that had the engine breather pipe fitted on the air inlet side before the element,bloody silly as the element soon became contaminated.

When the old motor started breathing heavy I i just fed the pipe into the chassis.

Turboman · Apr 25, 2018

tottot said:
My 2.5 TD had a paper element filter that had the engine breather pipe fitted on the air inlet side before the element,bloody silly as the element soon became contaminated. When the old motor started breathing heavy I i just fed the pipe into the chassis.

Thinking about it, so did mine. The oil bath cleaners ended with S3. But they are much cheaper to refill with oil than the paper element ones.
I always ran my 2.5 TD open to atmosphere as well, the engine was in good nick, but no point in taking any chances.

rob1miles · Apr 25, 2018

I would be looking to sort the centre diff / 2wd issue to cut loads on the front axle ujs. I know how mine kicks when paking in low range. Is it possible to fit cv joints by cutting down 90 shafts?

jamesmartin · Apr 25, 2018

rob1miles said:
I would be looking to sort the centre diff / 2wd issue to cut loads on the front axle ujs. I know how mine kicks when paking in low range. Is it possible to fit cv joints by cutting down 90 shafts?

not without a lot of machining

tottot · Apr 25, 2018

Have heard that running a turbo engine with an oil filled air cleaner is not a good idea but don't know.

Turboman · Apr 25, 2018

tottot said:
Have heard that running a turbo engine with an oil filled air cleaner is not a good idea but don't know.

Not a problem according to several that have done it, including @lynall .

Wouldn't surprise me if that was spread by manufacturers wanting to sell air filters at a tenner a pop.

The turbochargers on old Landrovers run fairly low boost pressures.

tottot · Apr 25, 2018

Would not surprise me either Turboman,thanks for the info.

markusGER · Apr 25, 2018

Thanks for all the comments and advice! I talked to previous owner and he insisted it was a Disco gearbox. Anyway, first thing is to look into the air filter issue and then understand the all time 4-wheel drive CV issue. Besides that, the brakes seem to be a mess and need attention. Once again, Thanks guys!

John S · Apr 26, 2018

markusGER said:
On Wikipedia: "The Stage 1 was normally available only in LWB 109-inch (2,800 mm) form but 24 examples were built with the SWB 88 in (2,235 mm) wheelbase"

I didn’t know that which makes them quite rare.

Bobsticle · Apr 26, 2018

Air filters are over rated. A bit of fine chicken wire is more than adequate to stop pigeons being sucked in.

My first series went three years with no oil in the bath. I thought it was a vortex filter

Turboman · Apr 26, 2018

Bobsticle said:
Air filters are over rated. A bit of fine chicken wire is more than adequate to stop pigeons being sucked in.

My first series went three years with no oil in the bath. I thought it was a vortex filter

It is supposed to have a bit of cyclonic action The air swirls round at the top, get the big bits out, and is then drawn down and into the oil bath surrounding the mesh in the base.

Most of the time, you will get away without oil in the wet British climate. Won't work so well in the Sahara, though.

tottot · Apr 26, 2018

In my grasstracking days one club member had an old chip fryer basket

for a filter! We called it his stone trap.His motors did not last long.

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