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Landigirl and her Husband have Donated as promised and I personally thank everyone who has pledged money and I'm excited as we get closer to our goal:D
 
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It's nice to know we can make a change to society in a durable and lasting manner:D

Also scouts I think maybe provide a childhood escape from pressures of modern life, what better than a crackling camp fire and songs, tall tales or even roasting marshmallows.
 
fanatic said:
Okay I'm on a email with Oase who do a tent in Outwell range to see if we can have a deal on 10 delivered to scouts.

I've also had a call With Vango to see if we can have a deal/sponsorship with direct delivery to scouts.
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I'm not sure which Outwell tent you have in mind, but having gone through a similar experience both last year and earlier this year in buying tents for a youth group, Outwell seemed more orientated towards tents which cater for living accommodation as well as sleeping accommodation. This means even a 3 man tent has a 4.5m x 2.5m footprint.

I suspect Pontyslapper's needs may be for tents which are primarily sleeping tents with a small amount of room for gear storage.

The only reason I say this is that you don't want to pay for canvas (sorry, PU coated ripstop nylon) you don't need.

You also need to consider the groundsheet issue. Most tents these days are manufactured with sewn in groundsheets both in the the sleeping compartment and the storage area. This can be problematic, particularly with nylon tents. Overnight the condensation gathers on the inside of the flysheet and whilst this isn't a problem if the flysheet is open to the ground as the condensation runs down the inside of the fly and onto the ground. However if it is a "sealed ground system" the condensation will puddle on the floor, and wet anything stored there. 2 or 3 adolescents generate a lot of exhaled vapour overnight and it has to go somewhere.

Having used a whole range of tents over the years, Vango; Blacks; Coleman; Khyam; Wynnster I would certainly recommend choosing one of the established brand rather than one from the recent glut of "festival tents" you can find on sale.

Has Pontyslapper expressed any views on the type of tent which they think would be most suitable? Nylon/Cotton; Dome/Tunnel or ridge? I realise that beggars can't be choosers, but you need to ensure the tents are suitable.

Finally, if I was Pontyslapper I might be looking at quality secondhand tents like these, rather than new PU coated nylon tents. They are far more robust than modern tents, easy to erect and if looked after, will far outlast any modern nylon purchase.
 
Tazz070299 said:
I'm not sure which Outwell tent you have in mind, but having gone through a similar experience both last year and earlier this year in buying tents for a youth group, Outwell seemed more orientated towards tents which cater for living accommodation as well as sleeping accommodation. This means even a 3 man tent has a 4.5m x 2.5m footprint.

I suspect Pontyslapper's needs may be for tents which are primarily sleeping tents with a small amount of room for gear storage.

The only reason I say this is that you don't want to pay for canvas (sorry, PU coated ripstop nylon) you don't need.

You also need to consider the groundsheet issue. Most tents these days are manufactured with sewn in groundsheets both in the the sleeping compartment and the storage area. This can be problematic, particularly with nylon tents. Overnight the condensation gathers on the inside of the flysheet and whilst this isn't a problem if the flysheet is open to the ground as the condensation runs down the inside of the fly and onto the ground. However if it is a "sealed ground system" the condensation will puddle on the floor, and wet anything stored there. 2 or 3 adolescents generate a lot of exhaled vapour overnight and it has to go somewhere.

Having used a whole range of tents over the years, Vango; Blacks; Coleman; Khyam; Wynnster I would certainly recommend choosing one of the established brand rather than one from the recent glut of "festival tents" you can find on sale.

Has Pontyslapper expressed any views on the type of tent which they think would be most suitable? Nylon/Cotton; Dome/Tunnel or ridge? I realise that beggars can't be choosers, but you need to ensure the tents are suitable.

Finally, if I was Pontyslapper I might be looking at quality secondhand tents like these, rather than new PU coated nylon tents. They are far more robust than modern tents, easy to erect and if looked after, will far outlast any modern nylon purchase.
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Bought a Medina last year on your recommendation. Very good indeed. I bought a Vango at the same time - pretty much the same.

One of the Essex boys could go and check these out and pick the best off the pallets. Vango Force 10 Tent - Ex-MOD - Miscellaneous



G~
 
Tazz070299 said:
I'm not sure which Outwell tent you have in mind, but having gone through a similar experience both last year and earlier this year in buying tents for a youth group, Outwell seemed more orientated towards tents which cater for living accommodation as well as sleeping accommodation. This means even a 3 man tent has a 4.5m x 2.5m footprint.

I suspect Pontyslapper's needs may be for tents which are primarily sleeping tents with a small amount of room for gear storage.

The only reason I say this is that you don't want to pay for canvas (sorry, PU coated ripstop nylon) you don't need.

You also need to consider the groundsheet issue. Most tents these days are manufactured with sewn in groundsheets both in the the sleeping compartment and the storage area. This can be problematic, particularly with nylon tents. Overnight the condensation gathers on the inside of the flysheet and whilst this isn't a problem if the flysheet is open to the ground as the condensation runs down the inside of the fly and onto the ground. However if it is a "sealed ground system" the condensation will puddle on the floor, and wet anything stored there. 2 or 3 adolescents generate a lot of exhaled vapour overnight and it has to go somewhere.

Having used a whole range of tents over the years, Vango; Blacks; Coleman; Khyam; Wynnster I would certainly recommend choosing one of the established brand rather than one from the recent glut of "festival tents" you can find on sale.

Has Pontyslapper expressed any views on the type of tent which they think would be most suitable? Nylon/Cotton; Dome/Tunnel or ridge? I realise that beggars can't be choosers, but you need to ensure the tents are suitable.

Finally, if I was Pontyslapper I might be looking at quality secondhand tents like these, rather than new PU coated nylon tents. They are far more robust than modern tents, easy to erect and if looked after, will far outlast any modern nylon purchase.
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Hi Tazz,

pontyslapper suggested as sort of thing

http://www.halfords.com/camping-car-...200-2-man-tent

from Go Outdoors

Vango Nyx 200 2-Person Tent | GO Outdoors

but all advice on durable and suitable gear would be great, as a side note what about army surplus?
 
blackstrat said:
Respect due to LG for still donating I say ;)
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Seems like LG has a sense of fair play, rest assured every penny will be used to do something wonderful and on this occasion it will give scouts tents to enjoy the simple things in life, fresh air, countryside, open fires etc

Childhood Memories -priceless pontyslapper has to consult with troop leader regards camping in Somerset in September. I hope they can come to Somerset as it would be great to see tents in action with scouts having great time.:cool:
 
fanatic said:
Hi Tazz,

pontyslapper suggested as sort of thing

http://www.halfords.com/camping-car-...200-2-man-tent

from Go Outdoors

Vango Nyx 200 2-Person Tent | GO Outdoors

but all advice on durable and suitable gear would be great, as a side note what about army surplus?
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Hi Fanny

The Vango Nyx looks a reasonable tent, but although Vango don't give the footprint size but sell it as a 2 man,I would be a little wary about it being big enough to accommodate 2 teenage scouts. Cubs perhaps, but when I looked at these I rejected them because a) of size, also b) due to sloping fly there is only sitting room at one end of the tent. (as scouts may camp in inclement weather, you need enough room for them to change in some comfort/ sit in tent when raining.)

The halfords link doesn't work for me.
 
Tazz070299 said:
Hi Fanny

The Vango Nyx looks a reasonable tent, but although Vango don't give the footprint size but sell it as a 2 man,I would be a little wary about it being big enough to accommodate 2 teenage scouts. Cubs perhaps, but when I looked at these I rejected them because a) of size, also b) due to sloping fly there is only sitting room at one end of the tent. (as scouts may camp in inclement weather, you need enough room for them to change in some comfort/ sit in tent when raining.)

The halfords link doesn't work for me.
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Halfords | Vacanza by Outwell Tropic 200 2 Man Tent

I have a eurohike stour ( discontinued) and it has been good- I agree whatever tent chosen that the ability to sit up and keep tent dry on entering and exiting tent are a must.
 
fanatic said:
Halfords | Vacanza by Outwell Tropic 200 2 Man Tent

I have a eurohike stour ( discontinued) and it has been good- I agree whatever tent chosen that the ability to sit up and keep tent dry on entering and exiting tent are a must.
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OK, Vacanza are Outwell tents, but re-branded for the likes of Argos & Halfords. They often sell at a lower price than their Outwell equivalent, but some times are lower spec. The Vacanza flysheet has a hydrostatic head of 3000 whereas I think the Outwell model is 4000. i.e. waterproof for a longer period. Again, the tent will be a tight fit for 2 adolescents. It will also suffer from what is known colloquially as wet back syndrome:rolleyes: This is because the door has a very shallow slope from the ground to the roof and first thing in a morning it is wringing wet with condensation. The first person out of the tent opens the door and crawls out, meanwhile the door, which is now freely hanging vertically having been unzipped wipes itself on the back of the exiting person. :D:D.

Also, because of the doors shallow slope, none of the porch is waterproof if the door is left open.

If Pontyslapper is set on nylon hoop type tents, has he considered these? Only really a 2 person but with a more vertical , side fastening door avoids the wet back, and still ptoects kit in the porch if it rains?

It's a shame he can't get a day out to look at the various options.
 
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