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To me it's surprising the plods didn't take a bit more interest, but then maybe they weren't specialists.
When building and registering kti cars, the plods, (specialists from "traffic") invariably came round and expressed "not happy" with anything that didn't have a Q on it. But then, once they examined them and banged the numbers and letters (VIN) into the chassis, and ffed off, I took the paperwork into the office that used to exist in Bournemuff and they always got to retain their original number.
Then came SVA which made things more difficult, then IVA, which is total sh!te.
So if the plods have told you just to update the DVLA then I'd do it "one piece at a time", i.e. engine, then months later, chassis, etc. I think you can stamp your own number into the chassis but the number has to be acceptable to them so you'd need to contact them to get them to tell you/approve an appropriate number. Ditto engine number, if you cannot find an original one. Can't believe the luck you had with those plods.
But best of luck trying to get them (DVLA) to do anything at the moment as they are running on empty!
When building and registering kti cars, the plods, (specialists from "traffic") invariably came round and expressed "not happy" with anything that didn't have a Q on it. But then, once they examined them and banged the numbers and letters (VIN) into the chassis, and ffed off, I took the paperwork into the office that used to exist in Bournemuff and they always got to retain their original number.
Then came SVA which made things more difficult, then IVA, which is total sh!te.
So if the plods have told you just to update the DVLA then I'd do it "one piece at a time", i.e. engine, then months later, chassis, etc. I think you can stamp your own number into the chassis but the number has to be acceptable to them so you'd need to contact them to get them to tell you/approve an appropriate number. Ditto engine number, if you cannot find an original one. Can't believe the luck you had with those plods.
But best of luck trying to get them (DVLA) to do anything at the moment as they are running on empty!
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Such a great song...and brilliant song writer. This song is should be the Landy Zone Anthem as each of us can relate to the "one piece at a time..." experience/mantra.
On similar lines, a friend used to work at a well known UK atomic research establishment. He and colleagues were forever taking car and motor cycle parts in and out of the site, using their extensive machine workshop facilities...and high grade materials. Some of the classic car parts hand crafted on site required HUGE lunch boxes to remove from site. I'm aware of at least one V8 engine block sized lunch box...and hilariously, an Aston Martin DB4 bonnet sized lunch box
On similar lines, a friend used to work at a well known UK atomic research establishment. He and colleagues were forever taking car and motor cycle parts in and out of the site, using their extensive machine workshop facilities...and high grade materials. Some of the classic car parts hand crafted on site required HUGE lunch boxes to remove from site. I'm aware of at least one V8 engine block sized lunch box...and hilariously, an Aston Martin DB4 bonnet sized lunch box
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I know someone who did exactly this with a Hillman Hunter out of Linwood.
I worked with a whole crowd of guys from the factory on building sites after it shut and if even half of the stories are true then it is hardly a surprise it shut!
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many years ago (~30) my father was in the local Police's 'stolen vehicle squad' and had some stories
hes not able to comment anymore BUT they didn't just look at a suspected problem vehicleedited & corrected for you
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I agree, am trying to get them to correct a typo on one of my classic cars V5's, not the VIN plate which is correct, and a year later still getting more and more forms to fill out asking for more pictures and information.
All it is is the build location code at the end of the V5 which for every vehicle built at abingdon is G rather than the 9 on the V5, they all say G! so it is obviosly a transcription error or typo.
All it is is the build location code at the end of the V5 which for every vehicle built at abingdon is G rather than the 9 on the V5, they all say G! so it is obviosly a transcription error or typo.
thought it was just me seeing things, lol
indeed bit of petrol of wire brush , fingers crossed is the vin number or maybe not ???
edit , oh well was worth a shot
Funny enough wondering if this may end up a Q plate with the mismatch
Hopefully the OP can just get it changed on the V5
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Q plate is only issued on first registration.
As the plods seem to think it is correctly registered and not stolen then all the OP has to do is as I said above.
As I also said, I think he's very lucky to have gotten away with it. Peeps building kit cars always fought like heck to avoid the dreaded Q. Both times I got one registered, the plods who came to stamp the numbers said "It'll get a Q", thankfully they were wrong and two of our cars have been tax free for ages now, which they wouldn't be on a Q.
Even getting a Q plate is really quite difficult now.
The Gov.uk site is full of how to reg your car, but without a proper chassis that can be linked to a V5, you are extremely likely to end up with full IVA.
Which is why I am surprised the plods didn't pursue it. Maybe they just said to themselves "well he'll just say he accidentally cut the out rigger (or whatever) off as it needed replacement and forgot that the Vin number was on there. We can't prove what it was anymore than he can. "
And if he says that's what happened they can't prove he didn't.
The DVLA would have to do a lot of digging etc and at the mo they can't find their way to their own backsides with a map.
Think OP has dodged a big fat bullet.
He doesn't say why the plods came round. Or maybe he did and I missed it.
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He didn't say the plod said anything about it being 'correctly registered'. They just said it wasn't nicked. If they weren't specialists then they probably just ran the plate and maybe checked the last month of local stolen vehicles.
It's clearly a stolen 90 300tdi that's been given the log book from a presumably scrapped series 3
It's clearly a stolen 90 300tdi that's been given the log book from a presumably scrapped series 3
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I don't think there is anything "clear" about this.
The chassis could come from a 300tdi that has been scrapped for some other reason, and had another 300tdi's body and engine fitted, or maybe the engine originally went with the chassis, which could explain why its number appears to be missing as well as the one on the chassis.
But the Series logbook is the mystifier, Plates and V5 from a scrappy too prolly. Sold on to a first timer in the LR world who doesn't know the diff between the two types. So broadly what you said except for the word "nicked".
Just had a thought, wonder if this dates back to the time when if you took a dirty diesel off the road the govt gave you something?
https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/jaguar-land-rover-benefits-scrappage-3942361
Must have been plenty of perfectly OK LRs around then. And it must have been tempting to just put one back on the road.
All good fun!
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Have a look back at the MOTs. You should be able to tell how long it’s had the wrong plate on by the mileage changes .
Have a look back at the MOTs. You should be able to tell how long it’s had the wrong plate on by the mileage changes .
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back as far as 2005/6......
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The reason for the series 3 log book is to make it road tax free. So cheaper to run.
Could I register my Freelander as a series 3? No. Could the OP register his vehicle as a Freelander? No.
Look on eBay. There's often peeps selling vin numbers and log books. There's also sellers of heavily modified vehicles which the seller realises will never be allowed on the road, part way through the build, so they sell their half built project before it's finished.
If you were going to sell the OP's vehicle then you would struggle. Selling it to a friend who's not aware... is a nasty trick.
The police would struggle to identify it or differing parts if the serial numbers have been removed.
Could I register my Freelander as a series 3? No. Could the OP register his vehicle as a Freelander? No.
Look on eBay. There's often peeps selling vin numbers and log books. There's also sellers of heavily modified vehicles which the seller realises will never be allowed on the road, part way through the build, so they sell their half built project before it's finished.
If you were going to sell the OP's vehicle then you would struggle. Selling it to a friend who's not aware... is a nasty trick.
The police would struggle to identify it or differing parts if the serial numbers have been removed.
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Personally I would be returning it to the 'mate' and having my money back.
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number plate...I can't see anything remotely series 3 anywhere
I don't know if it’s been mentioned, but there looks to be grinding marks where you've cleaned the paint, which suggests the chassis number has been ground off.
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is it grindy marks or just scrubby scratchy marks?
Looks grindy to me. Rolled steel wouldn't have grindy marks, so presumably those happened after the chassis was built. It's very suspicious to grindy marks, exactly where a stamped in number should be.
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