P38A How to find emission data to check ULEZ compliance

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biketeacherdave said:
Well tfl knocked back my L322 4.4 dispite having a form of conformity from JL.

Go figure tfl did suggest I consider walking or getting a bus :rolleyes:
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You got a certificate ,but still no joy ? , ,Is it a year / model thing ? .
This is the last possible reprieve for the old girl...I live in Westminster , the rangey I pick up at train station outside London ..
 
Realised mistake , .thank you ....and then got this
"Thank you for contacting Land Rover.

This email address is no longer in use for new enquiries, existing enquiries will be actioned as soon as possible

For any new enquiries, please see the alternative contact methods on the link belo
https://www.landrover.co.uk/contact-us.html " .
I had to sign into a Instagram thing and asked there ...:(
 
From a video I watched the other day, they were saying one you have got it ok'ed with tfl you should register with some other councils and then it will be put on the database that that model of car is OK and everybody with the same motor is automatically OK.
 
brianp38dse said:
From a video I watched the other day, they were saying one you have got it ok'ed with tfl you should register with some other councils and then it will be put on the database that that model of car is OK and everybody with the same motor is automatically OK.
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Unfortunately that is not the case each individual car has to be registered separately, my mates L322 same car as mine and everything is shown as ulez yet mine is not....go figure.
 
biketeacherdave said:
Unfortunately that is not the case each individual car has to be registered separately, my mates L322 same car as mine and everything is shown as ulez yet mine is not....go figure.
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The key part was to get it oked in different zones thought out the country which meant that the main database i think DVLA was then changed.
 
No joy with instagramm but a knight in shining armour stepped in .
So I applied ..... And this is response .
I can only think lpg conversion blew it




Thank you for providing your documents.
I have looked into the VIN that you have provided, unfortunately, there is no Certificate Of Conformity available for the vehicle.



There are several reasons why COCs would not be available for a vehicle. The following are a few of the reasons why a COC would not be available:



× It wasn't built for the European market

× It was built for the Military of Defence

× The vehicle has been modified in such a way that it no longer fits the 'conformity' certificate

× The vehicle was produced before the Vehicle Type Approval law was introduced

× The vehicle was a Pre-2011 Commercial or passenger vehicle which was not supplied with a CoC

× The vehicle was a Pre-production Model build phase before the Type Approval was obtained.



I apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.



Yours sincerely
 
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If anyone hears of a lpg 4.0 p38 getting a CoC .
I was pondering whether to reapply log book ,withdrawing the lpg .? Then have another go . I've also posted a request ? The system probably don't work like that , but don't hurt to try.. They replied within 90 minutes .
Nearest lpg station ,all in ulez .
Dilemma, do I buy a p38 ,that's been ulez passed with no lpg .. and get rid my lovely motor ? . I bought this one as it was nicest drive and body and everything works apart from seat element .....
When I bought it ,lpg was look on as green fuel by Kahn .t ...
 
Montyjohn said:
I have an important update.
I received the Certificate of Conformity from Land Rover today for my 2000 4.0 P38.
According to the CoC the emission values are:

CO: 0.698 g/km
NOx: 0.051 g/km
HC: 0.131 g/km
HC + NOx: 0.182 g/km

Apparently Euro 4 has the following requirements:
CO: 1.0g/km (pass)
THC: 0.10g/km (fail, although not sure if it can be compared with HC or not/)
NOx: 0.08g/km (pass)

So it appears to not be Euro 4 compliant as it fails for HCs.

However, and this is important. ULEZ only care about NOx. Nothing else.

The ULEZ standards are: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/ways-to-meet-the-standard
  • Euro 3 for motorcycles, mopeds, motorised tricycles and quadricycles (L category)
  • Euro 4 (NOx) for petrol cars, vans, minibuses and other specialist vehicles
  • Euro 6 (NOx and PM) for diesel cars, vans and minibuses and other specialist vehicles
So, my old V8 appears to be ULEZ compliant after all.
I've just sent of my V5 ad CoC to TFL.
They said they need a signed letter form the manufacturer, but I will try my luck with their email for now.
I'll let you know how it works out.
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Don't understand. Have a 2002 FL1 and it shows NOx 0.59 not 0.059. Why is the older one better?
 
mbrokof said:
Don't understand. Have a 2002 FL1 and it shows NOx 0.59 not 0.059. Why is the older one better?
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Newer engine usually have higher compression and smaller engines often rev higher.
Great for efficiency and performance but the extra heat results in more NOx.
Everything is a trade off so "better" all round often isn't achievable.
 
Datatek said:
A typo? strange that the figure is the same just minus a 0
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Can't see it being a typo. I assume he has the 1.8 k series engine. Since it's not related to the V8 in any way, I can't see how there would be a chance to confuse the figures between the engines.
 
Datatek said:
Not sure how the V8 has anything to do with it, the OP is talking about an FL1 diesel???
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That's my point, the V8 is unrelated so unlikely to be a typo.
If we were talking about two V8's of similar era, one being 0.051 and another 0.510 I would guess it's a typo.
But were talking about a V8 being 0.051 and a diesel being 0.590. No reason to think it's a typo.
Also, diesels typically have way higher NOx so I'd have no reason to question the NOx being that high.
 
Datatek said:
Not sure how the V8 has anything to do with it, the OP is talking about an FL1 diesel???
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I know it's a 4l with which it started but found the thread interesting and it's a bit strange that a 4l is compliant while a newer 2l isn't.
 
Montyjohn said:
That's my point, the V8 is unrelated so unlikely to be a typo.
If we were talking about two V8's of similar era, one being 0.051 and another 0.510 I would guess it's a typo.
But were talking about a V8 being 0.051 and a diesel being 0.590. No reason to think it's a typo.
Also, diesels typically have way higher NOx so I'd have no reason to question the NOx being that high.
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