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i have winter tyres on mine
ermm what you trying to say?Winter tyres are for poofs and Germans
i have winter tyres on mine
ermm what you trying to say?Winter tyres are for poofs and Germans
It had better be good in the snow otherwise my lad may find his Defender missing....
hey peeps im thinking of buying a land rover freelander,
with winter coming up i was wondering how does the freelander drive in snow?
p.s sorry if the question sounds silly, im a noob
Agree totally. The drivers ability is all important. Unfortunately, we don't get enough snow in England to allow drivers to practice and get better.I spent so much time trying to find out what is the best thing for driving in the snow. Based on what I read from various sources, reports, advice, most from experienced drivers, and so on. I would say that it is due to the following order...
1. Driver's skills. A more experienced driver can manage to move the car than a rookie do.
2. Four wheel drive cars. It do help a bit, but it is really like a driver's aid in support of the driver's skills.
3. Tyres. I'm still having a hard time studying this one, trying to chose the right kind of tyres, but it is thanks to many other Land Rover drivers here giving me suggestions, that I have made a choice of what tyres to buy and will order them when I can.
Anyway, When I had the Ford Focus, I had a hell of a time trying to move the car on snow, often had to get help pushing the car. Someone did suggest I drive backwards uphill because the Focus is a front wheel drive and the weight of the engine helps push the wheels down to get grip. I had a lot of wheel spin, too often almost a wheel spin every time I want to move the car.
I got sick of it, so I decided to try to study how people cope with driving in the snow. Was it because they have 4x4? Because of tyres? I found out that it seems to be down to mainly driver skills.
It seems drivers who gives the engine a little more power, to help get the wheel turning, often end up with a wheel spin polishing the snow, turning it into ice. Now they have a hard time trying to move their cars on ice. But it seems more experienced drivers somehow use 2nd gear, biting point, very light gas to keep engine running but not for the wheels, could move their cars better.
I will admit that last year, the poor Ford Focus had to be scrapped, and I got myself a 2005 Freelander 4dT. But after getting the Freelander and during my first winter in the Freelander, I was using the driving techniques I picked up from all over the Internet, and it was skills that was doing the right thing. I found the techniques helped, although I've been driving for over 10 years, it was a change of techniques that had helped. I will admit that I did still have few tiny problems, just a couple of wheel spins here and there, but not a lot of wheel spins almost every time I want to drive, like I did in the Focus. I may have 10 years of driving skills, but likely to have like a week's worth of experience driving on the snow.
The Freelander however did sort of played a role, it did helped in addition to the techniques I started using. I'm hoping the new tyres I plan to buy may help a lot more.
I've only had one winter with the Freelander, and I would say that in additional to the techniques I had to learn, the Freelander do seems to be good on snow. This coming winter, if there is snow, I'm going to find out some more.
But remember that, when it comes to photography, it is the photographer himself/herself who makes good use of the camera's controls that is what makes them a good photographer. It is not the camera's automatic controls that makes a good photographer. So don't expect the Freelander (or any other Land Rovers) to do the work for you, like inexperienced first time photographers expect the camera to do the work for them. Whether the Freelander is good on snow or bad on snow is down to your skills, and you need to work with the Freelander.
Hope it helps? I would guess that you may have already bought yourself a Freelander, but hope it helps you understand what makes a Freelander good on the snow?
Agree totally. The drivers ability is all important. Unfortunately, we don't get enough snow in England to allow drivers to practice and get better.
Col
I've driven both the FL1 and FL2 in very snowy road conditions (not off road) and they coped admirably. My preference is for an auto FL2, simply select snow and ice mode and the only things that will stop you are large drifts and 2WD clowns blocking the road. Be very aware that although your traction will be superb, you can still lose it on braking!
PS. Fitted with Goodyear Wranglers.
I agree with the braking warning: because everything else feels so “normal”, you can be lulled into a false sense of security and underestimate braking distances.
Just bear this in mind and you’ll be fine
Snow isn’t so bad.
It’s ice or ice under snow that will cause problems.
I agree with everyone else, mine was great in the snow on standard tyres. Better than a couple of local discos but that might be down to their drivers. Get a freelander and you will be looking forward to driving it in the snow. Winter tyres are for poofs and Germans.
Col
While we’re on the subject of driving in snow.
DSC on or off?
I spent so much time trying to find out what is the best thing for driving in the snow. Based on what I read from various sources, reports, advice, most from experienced drivers, and so on. I would say that it is due to the following order...
1. Driver's skills. A more experienced driver can manage to move the car than a rookie do.
2. Four wheel drive cars. It do help a bit, but it is really like a driver's aid in support of the driver's skills.
3. Tyres. I'm still having a hard time studying this one, trying to chose the right kind of tyres, but it is thanks to many other Land Rover drivers here giving me suggestions, that I have made a choice of what tyres to buy and will order them when I can.
Anyway, When I had the Ford Focus, I had a hell of a time trying to move the car on snow, often had to get help pushing the car. Someone did suggest I drive backwards uphill because the Focus is a front wheel drive and the weight of the engine helps push the wheels down to get grip. I had a lot of wheel spin, too often almost a wheel spin every time I want to move the car.
I got sick of it, so I decided to try to study how people cope with driving in the snow. Was it because they have 4x4? Because of tyres? I found out that it seems to be down to mainly driver skills.
It seems drivers who gives the engine a little more power, to help get the wheel turning, often end up with a wheel spin polishing the snow, turning it into ice. Now they have a hard time trying to move their cars on ice. But it seems more experienced drivers somehow use 2nd gear, biting point, very light gas to keep engine running but not for the wheels, could move their cars better.
I will admit that last year, the poor Ford Focus had to be scrapped, and I got myself a 2005 Freelander 4dT. But after getting the Freelander and during my first winter in the Freelander, I was using the driving techniques I picked up from all over the Internet, and it was skills that was doing the right thing. I found the techniques helped, although I've been driving for over 10 years, it was a change of techniques that had helped. I will admit that I did still have few tiny problems, just a couple of wheel spins here and there, but not a lot of wheel spins almost every time I want to drive, like I did in the Focus. I may have 10 years of driving skills, but likely to have like a week's worth of experience driving on the snow.
The Freelander however did sort of played a role, it did helped in addition to the techniques I started using. I'm hoping the new tyres I plan to buy may help a lot more.
I've only had one winter with the Freelander, and I would say that in additional to the techniques I had to learn, the Freelander do seems to be good on snow. This coming winter, if there is snow, I'm going to find out some more.
But remember that, when it comes to photography, it is the photographer himself/herself who makes good use of the camera's controls that is what makes them a good photographer. It is not the camera's automatic controls that makes a good photographer. So don't expect the Freelander (or any other Land Rovers) to do the work for you, like inexperienced first time photographers expect the camera to do the work for them. Whether the Freelander is good on snow or bad on snow is down to your skills, and you need to work with the Freelander.
Hope it helps? I would guess that you may have already bought yourself a Freelander, but hope it helps you understand what makes a Freelander good on the snow?
Smooth driving is the only way forward when conditions go down the toilet, snow, muck or whatever...
I would still pick the Freelander over the quattro on a schitty day though.
what does DSC stand for?
Dynamic Stability Control
Basically it means the car will look after you after you have lost control of it. But, and it's a big BUT, there are rare occasions where driver skill exceeds the capability of the software programmers. 9/10 times selecting the correct parameter is the right thing to do. BUT, for that 1/10 situation, turning DSC off makes a difference. I make no claim to be the world's best ice/snow driver, but on a couple of occasions turning the DSC off has allowed me, and the car, get home in one piece.
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