Here we go again, Project "Red shed"

-Defender110- · Jun 5, 2014

Defender-Sam said:
not quite i build his bigger brother the NTA855 but good luck finding suspension strong enough to hold the weight of one of those

we do them onsite but unfortunately never built one myself, tried to liberate parts but its a grey area i do know however that some bits are ridiculously expensive

Could you 'liberate' a few turbos of it bigger brother??

Defender-Sam · Jun 5, 2014

-Defender110- said:
Could you 'liberate' a few turbos of it bigger brother??

haha nice try

aaronmorris · Jun 6, 2014

Dr_evil said:
Do it! You must!

IamRobbie said:
^^^^

+1

Nope

I wouldn't even be able to do a video.

marccleave said:
So has that engine got like ~160hp and ~540Nm of torque? DAMN!

Come on... I wanna hear it running! It looks almost too big, but I guess that's the metal surrounding it.

Yeah, Looks bigger with it still being in the chassis.
As above nothing to video it even if I did start it on the drive.
Oh and yes it has a lot of potencial

Defender-Sam said:
not quite i build his bigger brother the NTA855 but good luck finding suspension strong enough to hold the weight of one of those

we do them onsite but unfortunately never built one myself, tried to liberate parts but its a grey area i do know however that some bits are ridiculously expensive

I didn't mean liberate as such, Just need a decent supplier as I'm sure I'll need quite a few bits and bobs.

-Defender110- said:
Could you 'liberate' a few turbos of it bigger brother??

+1

Defender-Sam said:
haha nice try

If you do so happen to come across some, Do let me know

aaronmorris · Jun 6, 2014

Well not a lot done today.

Made an order with Lr Direct, Always surprises me how fast the bill goes up, £350 for what was mainly little bits, set of springs, Assorted nuts, Bolts, Washers, Gaskets and seals etc.

Other 90 is now being used as a storage facility.
All front axle bits cleaned and painted, Just need to wait for my delivery and it can go back together.

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Cleaned all the other axle bit's A-frame, Trailing arms, Radius arms, Steering arms etc.

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I thought I'd keep the red theme going and bought some for the radius arms etc.
Well it turned up and by god it was bright

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So though, I'll put a bit of black in it to make it darker.
Well that didn't go to plan

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Thought I'd best try it on something to see what it's like.
Well it looks like bloody red oxide now.

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Defender-Sam · Jun 6, 2014

one thing that does concern me about these engines is the weight, you reckon a basic engine crane is suitable for lifting one? mine was making some noises with just the 300 on it and i assume these are a fair chunk heavier. on another note axle looking good, wont be long till your chucking these things together with your eyes closed

Jam1 · Jun 6, 2014

I quite like the "old toolbox" red effect there

marccleave · Jun 6, 2014

I've come to like the red oxide colour. I think its stockholm syndrome rather than an actual likeness for it.

Help.

Al2O3 · Jun 7, 2014

I think you should put a few coats of the original red on to match the panels. Once it's altogether the red gear underneath will not look so loud

I hope

cowasaki · Jun 7, 2014

Aaron, I'm thinking of sticking this thing in my 90 >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwvS8_H5rKs

sp00k · Jun 7, 2014

Aaron, I'll be reading your thread with great interest. I've been toying with the idea of one of these engines for a while. Read loads of threads about the conversions. I think it's probably beyond my ability. I'm interested to see what sort of adapter you come up with to couple it.

I like the red you came up with - looks good.

Defender-Sam said:
one thing that does concern me about these engines is the weight, you reckon a basic engine crane is suitable for lifting one? mine was making some noises with just the 300 on it and i assume these are a fair chunk heavier. on another note axle looking good, wont be long till your chucking these things together with your eyes closed

I got a 2 ton crane from SGS 2 Ton Professional Folding Hydraulic Engine Crane/Hoist/Lift . It showed no signs of stress at the furthest extension (1/2 ton) with my 200 TDI. I could probably have done it at the next extension in which is rated for 1 ton.

aaronmorris · Jun 7, 2014

Defender-Sam said:
one thing that does concern me about these engines is the weight, you reckon a basic engine crane is suitable for lifting one? mine was making some noises with just the 300 on it and i assume these are a fair chunk heavier. on another note axle looking good, wont be long till your chucking these things together with your eyes closed

To be honest I was very concerned about the engine crane coping, But today has proven me wrong. Engine and box is about 700kg

Yep, I learn more every time I rebuild one

Jam1 said:
I quite like the "old toolbox" red effect there

Yeah, It's not bad, Just not what I had envisaged.

marccleave said:
I've come to like the red oxide colour. I think its stockholm syndrome rather than an actual likeness for it.

Help.

Yes, You need help

But I can't comment because so do I :5bwilly_nilly:

Al203 said:
I think you should put a few coats of the original red on to match the panels. Once it's altogether the red gear underneath will not look so loud I hope

Your right it wont be to noticeable when it's back together

cowasaki said:
Aaron, I'm thinking of sticking this thing in my 90 >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwvS8_H5rKs

Good plan, You may need a 130 to fit it though

sp00k said:
Aaron, I'll be reading your thread with great interest. I've been toying with the idea of one of these engines for a while. Read loads of threads about the conversions. I think it's probably beyond my ability. I'm interested to see what sort of adapter you come up with to couple it.

I like the red you came up with - looks good.

I got a 2 ton crane from SGS 2 Ton Professional Folding Hydraulic Engine Crane/Hoist/Lift . It showed no signs of stress at the furthest extension (1/2 ton) with my 200 TDI. I could probably have done it at the next extension in which is rated for 1 ton.

I'm much the same as you, Always thought I want to do one, one day, Just decided f*ck it and went for it, Engine coming up cheap was the deciding factor though. Or it'd have just had a tdi put in it and sold.

And I'm thinking it may be beyond my ability at the moment, But I'm all up for learning new things.

As for the adaptor I haven't got a clue at the moment. I'm might have to get someone to make it depending what I decide.

But that doesn't bother me to be honest. Engine was cheaper than most so can afford to put a few quid into it, Plus money isn't that much of a factor as it's something I'll never want to sell. Well it is but I'm sure you know what I mean

Bennehboy · Jun 7, 2014

Ha brilliant that you got a 6BT, I'm going to have to bomb over and listen to it in person when you get it sorted

cowasaki · Jun 7, 2014

There really is a business opportunity for someone that can put together a package of all the bits: engine mounts, 12/24v adapter for starter, adapter plates, throttle cable, gearbox to transfer box adapter shaft etc etc

I'd quite like to build one of these as well. When you can pick up a Leyland DAF 45 with engine and box for £500-800 or even less and then sell off the rest of the bits and scrap it would be rude not to

aaronmorris · Jun 7, 2014

Bennehboy said:
Ha brilliant that you got a 6BT, I'm going to have to bomb over and listen to it in person when you get it sorted

Will be a while before I get that far, But feel free when it's up and running

cowasaki said:
There really is a business opportunity for someone that can put together a package of all the bits: engine mounts, 12/24v adapter for starter, adapter plates, throttle cable, gearbox to transfer box adapter shaft etc etc

I'd quite like to build one of these as well. When you can pick up a Leyland DAF 45 with engine and box for £500-800 or even less and then sell off the rest of the bits and scrap it would be rude not to

Oh I most definitely agree, I would buy one if their was one on the market.
Be a nice job knocking them up, But I have neither the tools or the knowhow to do it.
But hopefully by the end of this I'll know the conversion inside out. I know my brother wants a 6bt as well so that'd be another one to have a go at

You see everyone told be you can find DAF 45's cheap, Cheapest I found was £750.
But that fell through. Bloke was meant to be delivering it.
Rang me up saying someone has stabbed a hole in the fuel tank so he can't start it. But I've got another one at the side of it that's getting chopped up.
(I'd already told him I only wanted it for the engine and box)
Said he wanted £450 for it and do I want to view it.
Went down, Had a look, Saw it running, Gave him a deposit, He took the cab off and cut the chassis in half the next day and delivered it the day after.

Probably worked out easier for me this way than trying to get rid of the rest, Seen as I only work on my drive at home.

aaronmorris · Jun 7, 2014

Well I lifted the engine out of the DAF chassis today. Something which I was dreading as I've got to drag it a fair distance to the garage.

Anyway, I lifted the engine up, We tried to drag the engine crane but the engine kept getting caught on the chassis, So decided I'd pull the chassis from underneath the engine.
So attached a rope to brothers 90 and pulled it out

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And dragged it all the way from up there

Not the easiest of tasks on a cobley concrete driveway. Although the biggest problem was it kept wanting to going into the grass in the middle.
Got **** wet through in the process but I wanted it out over the weekend.
I must say I was impressed at how well the engine crane managed. Didn't even make any funny noises

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Other than that I did f*ck all other than having another sort out for stuff to sell.
Paint from yesterday looks bloody brown now

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cowasaki · Jun 7, 2014

Aaron,

That is one serious lump! Are you going to clean it up/paint the block etc before it goes in? It doesn't look like there will be much space once it is in. It would be interesting to see it against a 300Tdi

cowasaki · Jun 7, 2014

It also looks like your next door neighbour has been working on that camper in the driveway. I think you should complain to the council about them, lowering the tone.

danny6801 · Jun 7, 2014

Great work once again, I have 2 Leyland daf 45 one a horse box the other is a storage for the farm but only has about 80000 on the clock hadn't started it for 3 years started first time last week amazing engines.

aaronmorris · Jun 7, 2014

cowasaki said:
Aaron,

That is one serious lump! Are you going to clean it up/paint the block etc before it goes in? It doesn't look like there will be much space once it is in. It would be interesting to see it against a 300Tdi

Tell me about it, Looks bloody huge

There wont be a lot of space and will have to cut the bulkhead tunnel out.
Not got a 300tdi to hand, But theirs an old td under that green tarp

Oh and I forgot to say, Yes the engine will be getting painted, Think I'll keep it red, But theirs no rush to make that decision.

cowasaki said:
It also looks like your next door neighbour has been working on that camper in the driveway. I think you should complain to the council about them, lowering the tone.

Hasn't been touched since last summer.
But yes before that he was painting it. Albeit with a rattle can. When next door but 1 complained last year I said well he's painting his camper, Got no real reply. So one rule for one and another for someone else.
F*ck 'em, Theirs no mediating with them, They just want to shout at me.
And think I'll just give in.
Yeah right

danny6801 said:
Great work once again, I have 2 Leyland daf 45 one a horse box the other is a storage for the farm but only has about 80000 on the clock hadn't started it for 3 years started first time last week amazing engines.

Cheers

Yep they're good engines, Want to sell me one of yours

cowasaki · Jun 8, 2014

Aaron, how are you planning to mount it and how far forwards are you planning it to go. With an electric fan there is still a nice sized gap in front of the 300TDi so you could probably gain a little space that way.

I wonder how many mpg you can get with it in the defender and if you can run the Cummins on veg oil

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