Help needed! S62 engine in l322 range rover

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Steff25

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Hello all,
First off I'm sorry if I have put this in the wrong section!
My name is steff (I'm a bloke- long story and a traumatic childhood lol), I run a rather small yard where I buy and sell used l322s.
Now as I'm not exactly rolling in cash I use whatever it is I'm selling at the time, but me and the missus have found out that we're having a little one, so after upgrading her car I bought my self the first Range Rover after owning and selling them for the first time....well, I bought a very very abused 02 4.4 vogue.
So far I've stripped her to a bare shell and she's been painted in imperial blue.
So to the point in question, I have the 4.4 it came with so I can either play around with a votech supercharger till I get somewhere close...or.... Fit an s62 from an e39 m5.
I've had experience with both engines, but could do with knowing if anyone has done this in the past or is working on it, is it possible to fit one? Using the Range Rover gearbox? Will it work with a loom and ecu transplant or will the car throw a hissy fit and shut down all its other systems, stand alone ecu? Will the rr sump fit, it's rattling round in my brain, but I don't want to spend thousands on a crashed m5 if it's futile!
The 4.4 I have I would fit to a rr with a timing chain issue to recoup as much as possible.
Any advice would be great!
Thanks again and sorry for rambling!
If anyone wants to see the project so far just let me know :)
 
Interesting Idea....

The S62 is a (almost) 5 litre version of the M62 with some nice tweaks to get around 390 odd BHP. the Stroke was increased and so was the bore, the block is the same so whilst the RR sump with its front diff mounts should bolt on...but with the increased stroke, you may hove to check it dimensionally to ensure the crank doesn't foul on it!

The S62 uses individual throttle bodies so you'll have to replace the Engine ECU, then get this to talk on the CAN to the rest of the car including the gearbox ECU so it can give load information to the box for shift changes and the gearbox ECU can issue a torque reduction command when it changes gear.

The ZF 5HP24 in the Range Rover is barely capable of handling the M62 and torque converter friction material issues are common (mine is holding on at the moment but only just), so with the S62...it will just tear itself to bits!

Whilst interesting.....I'd put the money to better use and get a TDV8 or if you want a fast petrol model, get a supercharged Jag powered L322.....

Fitting the Supercharger to the M62 would be a lot easier....but remember the M62 in the Range Rover was tuned for torque and low end grunt rather than speed.
 
Steff25 said:
Hello all,
First off I'm sorry if I have put this in the wrong section!
My name is steff (I'm a bloke- long story and a traumatic childhood lol), I run a rather small yard where I buy and sell used l322s.
Now as I'm not exactly rolling in cash I use whatever it is I'm selling at the time, but me and the missus have found out that we're having a little one, so after upgrading her car I bought my self the first Range Rover after owning and selling them for the first time....well, I bought a very very abused 02 4.4 vogue.
So far I've stripped her to a bare shell and she's been painted in imperial blue.
So to the point in question, I have the 4.4 it came with so I can either play around with a votech supercharger till I get somewhere close...or.... Fit an s62 from an e39 m5.
I've had experience with both engines, but could do with knowing if anyone has done this in the past or is working on it, is it possible to fit one? Using the Range Rover gearbox? Will it work with a loom and ecu transplant or will the car throw a hissy fit and shut down all its other systems, stand alone ecu? Will the rr sump fit, it's rattling round in my brain, but I don't want to spend thousands on a crashed m5 if it's futile!
The 4.4 I have I would fit to a rr with a timing chain issue to recoup as much as possible.
Any advice would be great!
Thanks again and sorry for rambling!
If anyone wants to see the project so far just let me know :)
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Not much cash and attempting all that. Find a good loan shark you will surely need one. :D:D
 
Thank you Saint.v8, one thing I didn't think about was the engine ecu and the can bring in sinc, so looks like the m5 engine will have to go on the back burner for a while, I like to try think of different routes to take with some of the cars I've had over the years, and with keeping this one, I wanted to go all out, although practicality I guess prevails in this situation.
I'm looking to extract as much bhp from the standard 4.4 it looks like, just hoping a de cat, full stainless, manifolds, induction and remap will give enough.
But if there's any other option out there I would be great full for the advice.
 
I know what you mean wammers, I guess not rolling in cash is more a relative term for "very expensive missus and baby on way". I nearly died the other day, a decent pram costs more than my first car did, although we have bought pretty much everything we need so been given "permission" to spend some hard earned, on the rangie.
 
Steff25 said:
Hello all,
First off I'm sorry if I have put this in the wrong section!
My name is steff (I'm a bloke- long story and a traumatic childhood lol), I run a rather small yard where I buy and sell used l322s.
Now as I'm not exactly rolling in cash I use whatever it is I'm selling at the time, but me and the missus have found out that we're having a little one, so after upgrading her car I bought my self the first Range Rover after owning and selling them for the first time....well, I bought a very very abused 02 4.4 vogue.
So far I've stripped her to a bare shell and she's been painted in imperial blue.
So to the point in question, I have the 4.4 it came with so I can either play around with a votech supercharger till I get somewhere close...or.... Fit an s62 from an e39 m5.
I've had experience with both engines, but could do with knowing if anyone has done this in the past or is working on it, is it possible to fit one? Using the Range Rover gearbox? Will it work with a loom and ecu transplant or will the car throw a hissy fit and shut down all its other systems, stand alone ecu? Will the rr sump fit, it's rattling round in my brain, but I don't want to spend thousands on a crashed m5 if it's futile!
The 4.4 I have I would fit to a rr with a timing chain issue to recoup as much as possible.
Any advice would be great!
Thanks again and sorry for rambling!
If anyone wants to see the project so far just let me know :)
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:hysterically_laughiGiven that the gearboxes are made of specially softened Chinese fake metal and the suspension bushes are made of French cheese, not to mention the in built unreliability, sounds like a barmy idea.:rolleyes:
 
Steff25 said:
I know what you mean wammers, I guess not rolling in cash is more a relative term for "very expensive missus and baby on way". I nearly died the other day, a decent pram costs more than my first car did, although we have bought pretty much everything we need so been given "permission" to spend some hard earned, on the rangie.
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Do yourself a favour and spend what you have on a little car. The range rover project will eat everything you own and spit you out onto the street.
 
Nice idea, i did look into what could be done with the 4.4 engine at one stage before i realised just keeping the car running as standard would cost me my worldly belongings and a bit more to boot.

Have a read of the link below, i think the gist was you could spend a load on the M62 for not much gain.

i think i saw a 2002 L322 overfinch 5.2 v8 on ebay the other day, not sure what engine maybe a cosworth, but may be more open to a tweak

edit - think i might actually add the link

http://bmwv8capri.yolasite.com/tuning-the-m60-m62.php
 
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Methinks the OP is heading off into a world of pain and at the end of it all the car will be worth zilch.
 
Thanks for the helpful replies, and the bit so too.
Wammers, I have a business selling range rovers, in fact, other than dabbling in the m5 scene, and various fast road projects over the years, I'm well aware of what it means to run a Range Rover as I probably have not had anything other than that to use as a daily driver for the last 6 years, so no need for a small car. The cost compared to its retail potential is irrelevant, I tweek some of the ones I get in, but am well aware of what the perramiters of out goings compared to profit margins and profit margins gained through such actions.
Basically I know it won't be built for a profit, but to keep till the day comes I buy the latest model, and this won't be for a fair while. Cheers
 
The biggest problem you'll have with an s62 is the same problem the guys that ft them into e39 touring is that you'll need the m5's ecu unless you go for stand alone management but then that's a whole different problem. I digress, the main issue is that the ecu wants inputs from the dsc system in order to run in full power mode. If those sensors fail/ are missing the ecu will go to limp home mode.

As mentioned gearboxes are notorious weak spots on l322's and throwing 400bhp/369lbft through it won't help.
Plus the stunning s62 likes to be reved and not really the engine for a rangie! I do miss my E39 M5!
 
Looks like it's keeping te 4.4 with a few tweeks then, thanks for the info, it's one if those things, close but no cigar :(. Still she's gunna be beautiful. Ever onwards and upwards!
 
Don't like em to be honest, it's not that I want crazy power, I've got a few toys for that job, I just want it to be different. Childish I know but hey. Sometimes we have to be
 
Watch the video, it's not a sport as he claims it to be and not the power although the exhaust sounds odd for a standard so maybe it's something a bit special ??

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys :D
 
Ok, I recon I've just made a mess of my pants, the clips also been emailed to tony banks who will be making the exhaust, and big letter saying I WANT THIS NOISE!!!!!
 
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