Clanforbes
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This is just my opinion and as such I exercise my rights of free speech to say, shame on the makers of Hawkeye. I bought a Hawkeye Diagnostics Tool for my Defender. As most of you will know, this tool will do other Land Rover models. If you buy the “extra” licence to open it up, but at the moment, this is of no importance to me as I only use it for my own Defender. Which is a 2000 110 TD5 .
Since I’ve been having a few difficulties with it cutting out on me, I wanted a diagnostics tool and I decided on the Hawkeye. Not a problem, this is in no way a criticism of this particular tool, I find it does everything I want it to, so far.
But the basic Hawkeye only reads and writes to the ECM of my Defender, which means that if I want to look into the alarm/immobiliser part of the electronics, I needed to buy an adaptor, known as “The Green Adaptor BA5076.” The cheapest I could find this adaptor on the net was £38.50 excl vat p&p etc. By the time I paid the VAT and P&P it cost a total of £51.70.
This is my main criticism – the price, and here is why.
The adaptor is a neat little black plastic box (admittedly ergonomically shaped) which has a 16 pin OBDII male connector at one end and the matching 16 pin OBDII female connector at the other. It is designed to be plugged onto your existing DTC socket on your vehicle and you can then plug your Hawkeye lead into this adaptor.
If you open the adaptor up and have a look inside, you will find that what it does is, it disconnects pin 7 (the ECM connection) of your original DTC socket and swaps pin 8 (the alarm ECU connection) over to pin 7 on the output end for the Hawkeye. There is one other wire it swaps over, but this is not relevant to my defender as there is no connection to this pin on the original (I am assuming this is for a different Land Rover model, or possibly later Defenders.)
So, for the total cost of £50.70 you get a three inch piece of wire which goes from one hole to another, yes it comes in a neat little box, yes it does have another four short pieces of wire (which are already on your DTC anyway,) and yes, you do get the two plastic ends, but, personally, I’d much rather have known that I could have simply soldered three wires to a switch and did the job just as well, however, I was unable to find the wiring diagram needed to do this until I’d bought a BA5076 adaptor. Good God, using a little savvy, I, or anyone else, can do this totally for free by simply temporarily removing one of the wires from the DTC socket (the pink one on pin 7) and then moving one of the others (the Orange/Green one on pin 8) and putting it into the hole for pin 7 – this would then allow the Hawkeye to read/write to the alarm ECU. I have to state, for the record, that I have provided this information for educational purposes only and if you act upon any of the information I have provided then you do so entirely at your own risk.
Anyone who would like the pin outs to make up their own adaptor can PM me and I will send you details, but at this point I must state, for the record, that if you make up your own “adaptor” in any form using the info I provide then you do so entirely at your own risk.
It will take me a couple of days to get enough computer time (I work long hours and sleep the rest) to draw up an easy to read connection diagram with all the pin connections between the DTC socket on my defender, the “Green Adaptor - BA5076” and the 15-pin D-Sub Hawkeye connector lead.
Ron.
Since I’ve been having a few difficulties with it cutting out on me, I wanted a diagnostics tool and I decided on the Hawkeye. Not a problem, this is in no way a criticism of this particular tool, I find it does everything I want it to, so far.
But the basic Hawkeye only reads and writes to the ECM of my Defender, which means that if I want to look into the alarm/immobiliser part of the electronics, I needed to buy an adaptor, known as “The Green Adaptor BA5076.” The cheapest I could find this adaptor on the net was £38.50 excl vat p&p etc. By the time I paid the VAT and P&P it cost a total of £51.70.
This is my main criticism – the price, and here is why.
The adaptor is a neat little black plastic box (admittedly ergonomically shaped) which has a 16 pin OBDII male connector at one end and the matching 16 pin OBDII female connector at the other. It is designed to be plugged onto your existing DTC socket on your vehicle and you can then plug your Hawkeye lead into this adaptor.
If you open the adaptor up and have a look inside, you will find that what it does is, it disconnects pin 7 (the ECM connection) of your original DTC socket and swaps pin 8 (the alarm ECU connection) over to pin 7 on the output end for the Hawkeye. There is one other wire it swaps over, but this is not relevant to my defender as there is no connection to this pin on the original (I am assuming this is for a different Land Rover model, or possibly later Defenders.)
So, for the total cost of £50.70 you get a three inch piece of wire which goes from one hole to another, yes it comes in a neat little box, yes it does have another four short pieces of wire (which are already on your DTC anyway,) and yes, you do get the two plastic ends, but, personally, I’d much rather have known that I could have simply soldered three wires to a switch and did the job just as well, however, I was unable to find the wiring diagram needed to do this until I’d bought a BA5076 adaptor. Good God, using a little savvy, I, or anyone else, can do this totally for free by simply temporarily removing one of the wires from the DTC socket (the pink one on pin 7) and then moving one of the others (the Orange/Green one on pin 8) and putting it into the hole for pin 7 – this would then allow the Hawkeye to read/write to the alarm ECU. I have to state, for the record, that I have provided this information for educational purposes only and if you act upon any of the information I have provided then you do so entirely at your own risk.
Anyone who would like the pin outs to make up their own adaptor can PM me and I will send you details, but at this point I must state, for the record, that if you make up your own “adaptor” in any form using the info I provide then you do so entirely at your own risk.
It will take me a couple of days to get enough computer time (I work long hours and sleep the rest) to draw up an easy to read connection diagram with all the pin connections between the DTC socket on my defender, the “Green Adaptor - BA5076” and the 15-pin D-Sub Hawkeye connector lead.
Ron.
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