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True, but once you get back into your safety shell it's easy to forget
Guilt by association and section 59 tickets
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Are you not more aware of bikes even in your car?
I will often be in a queue of cars and see bike/s hopping in my mirrors, I will always move to the kerb side so they can pass.
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In general yes, I'm just saying it's easy to fall back into car driver mode
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IANAL and all those other disclaimers but....
Can you challenge a Section 59 at the time and require them to show evidence that you meet the criteria, especially if you are assisting a motorist in distress? If you refuse to accept the warning can you force their hand to try a different tack? If you are confident your actions are innocent then if they try to issue one then surely is harassment ie
(1)A person must not pursue a course of conduct—
(a)which amounts to harassment of another, and
(b)which he knows or ought to know amounts to harassment of the other.
The fact that a Section 59 cannot be appealed after issue will be known to the officer(s) which would fit the definition of harassment
Can you challenge a Section 59 at the time and require them to show evidence that you meet the criteria, especially if you are assisting a motorist in distress? If you refuse to accept the warning can you force their hand to try a different tack? If you are confident your actions are innocent then if they try to issue one then surely is harassment ie
(1)A person must not pursue a course of conduct—
(a)which amounts to harassment of another, and
(b)which he knows or ought to know amounts to harassment of the other.
The fact that a Section 59 cannot be appealed after issue will be known to the officer(s) which would fit the definition of harassment
Anaconda
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He wouldn't have been in distress if he wasn't an idiot.
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Would he have been in that dress.. if he weren't in dis one?
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Try it and let us know how it goes
This would not be harassment. A police force would not record or investigate it as such. However, it could be dealt with as a complaint. That in itself would be a separate matter to the section 59 but the issuing of the warning would be looked into as part of the complaint.
Oh, oh, please sir… can we issue section 59’s to EVERY
And every Prius. (See above)
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Watch who you're calling a Muppet
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You would be amazed to see just how many folk do the opposite when they see a bike legally lane splitting in very slow or stationary traffic
No I wouldn't. I ride bikes too.You would be amazed to see just how many folk do the opposite when they see a bike legally lane splitting in very slow or stationary traffic
J
Question, how would the new owner of the the car know if it had a S59 against it?? I’d like to think there would be a way of finding that out?? HPI check wouldn’t bring that up would it??And it stays with the car if sold.
J
I have no idea if its checkable, I don't have to deal with it living here.
Are you thinking of buying a new car?
Why not pop into your local police station and ask? it would help if it was a transparent system
. I also don't believe it should be carried over to the new owner.J
Hmmmm, I’ve had it since June , we have had many enjoyable days out on the official green lanes using glass and TW2 lanes, i don’t plan of driving it like a total bell, or planning on going off on stuff you shouldn’t, like to think the previous owner didn’t..I have no idea if its checkable, I don't have to deal with it living here.
Are you thinking of buying a new car?
Why not pop into your local police station and ask? it would help if it was a transparent system
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No, it wouldn't. HPI is for finance. It doesn't even pick up loans taken out against the vehicle because most of the firms are not registered with the relevant authority (because they're shady as ****).
Only record I can think of would be with the relevant Police area so you'd have to submit a Freedom of Information request. I suspect they would refuse to prove details unless your name matched the one on their records. However, that then begs the question: who else would know of even care?
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Don't do anything you shouldn't do then you will be alright.
Hicap phill
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Hope he get a warning for driving a mile down a bridal track(down near Essex) ..
.not even I get this lost
.not even I get this lost
