Garage just told me my 4wd is a 2wd!?!

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Bromsgrove Defender said:
Alcoholics Anonymous ;) :D :D :D

Not much better than Rent A Clown :rolleyes:

BUT must be said though, better than no research or inspection....... just. ;)
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Or in actual fact for our american friends.... automobile Association, meant to be our 4th emergency service......

As a breakdown and recovery technician and having worked with the AA the most appropriate version is actual the arsehole association, well the call centre and office staff are, the blokes on the ground are normally very well trained and helpful but their hands are tied in a lot of ways by the red tape that is in any large corporate organisation.
 
I thought that "AA" must be akin to our "AAA" (Automobile Association of America), but I was not sure. I am a member of AAA. Only for one reason,.....renewal of the registration! If you would know what DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) looks like in CA, you would understand! It's not like this in other states. It's very civilized in Arizona, Nevada, Minnesota, Washington D.C. ...etc. (states I have experience with). In CA,...the line is TWICE around the building, no place to sit down, and HUNDREDS of people in line (very few of them speak English!!)! It takes HOURS to get through. At least, AAA is airconditioned, you can sit down, and wait till your number comes up. If any of you end up in CA,....make sure your tags expire in winter. Standing in line (twice around the buliding, in 95+F heat) is NOT easy!
I would NEVER let them "inspect" anything though!

I miss THIS (renewal of the plates) from England, Germany, .....and pretty much everywhere in the Euro zone.
 
Danielsand said:
I thought that "AA" must be akin to our "AAA" (Automobile Association of America), but I was not sure. I am a member of AAA. Only for one reason,.....renewal of the registration! If you would know what DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles) looks like in CA, you would understand! It's not like this in other states. It's very civilized in Arizona, Nevada, Minnesota, Washington D.C. ...etc. (states I have experience with). In CA,...the line is TWICE around the building, no place to sit down, and HUNDREDS of people in line (very few of them speak English!!)! It takes HOURS to get through. At least, AAA is airconditioned, you can sit down, and wait till your number comes up. If any of you end up in CA,....make sure your tags expire in winter. Standing in line (twice around the buliding, in 95+F heat) is NOT easy!
I would NEVER let them "inspect" anything though!

I miss THIS (renewal of the plates) from England, Germany, .....and pretty much everywhere in the Euro zone.
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Never had more than 2 infront for our DMV, most times there is no one in line
 
MellyJ said:
Hi guys, I originally posted this question and AT LAST it has been resolved with the assistance of trading standards and I rejected the vehicle and 9 MONTHS later, I got a refund I was vaguelly acceotable to (minus mileage). THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP ALL :) Anyway, the dealer is selling the car again and has it on the forecourt - not disclosing its two wheel drive.... or if he has now put a rear prop in (he was refusing to follow the guidelines of LandRover to reinstate it and they refused to do the work on that basis), that it was a conversion.... So BEWARE All. It is from Airport Garage in Ipswch, it is a FREELANDER 2003 Estate, 3 door, silver - plate number - AF03 SXV

Land Rover Freelander TD GS Hardback for sale in Ipswich Suffolk | Airport Garage

Any suggestions where else I post this so people are aware? The dealer lies and cheats and tries to rip people off. I have been going on as many sites as possible to review this garage and warn people. This car is a wreck and should not be purchased by someone in good faith. So sad that this will be back on the market again. He would have only put a prop in too (if he has even bothered!)
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I notice that nowhere on the ad does it say the vehicle is 4x4, I might just use the enquiry form ;)
 
Thor1950 said:
Never had more than 2 infront for our DMV, most times there is no one in line
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You are lucky (in some ways).

I lived in Europe for a little over 30 years. I'll be 59 later this year. So I do have the experience in living on both sides of the "big pond". Over here, I have 140 acres (plus THOUSANDS of acres behind my property, "owned" by the government), that I can ride my horses on, ride my motorcycles, and off road ANY vehicle. I also have my private shooting range (out to 300 yards), and I am only about 5 min drive from the city (that has every possible restaurant, grocery store, hardware store, auto store, etc.). These are just few things that matter to ME.

I also have to put up with crowds (when I go down to the city), and in MANY parts of L.A. you have no business to be, unless you speak Spanish (which I do, among other languages, six in total). Europe AND USA, have their pros and cons, when it comes to daily living. The problem? One can not sit in two chairs at the same time! IF I could combine the open spaces/privacy of America, with,....European culture, way of life, cuisine, and some ways of doing business, ....I would be one HAPPY camper! Not possible,.....unfortunately.
 
Danielsand said:
You are lucky (in some ways).

I lived in Europe for a little over 30 years. I'll be 59 later this year. So I do have the experience in living on both sides of the "big pond". Over here, I have 140 acres (plus THOUSANDS of acres behind my property, "owned" by the government), that I can ride my horses on, ride my motorcycles, and off road ANY vehicle. I also have my private shooting range (out to 300 yards), and I am only about 5 min drive from the city (that has every possible restaurant, grocery store, hardware store, auto store, etc.). These are just few things that matter to ME.

I also have to put up with crowds (when I go down to the city), and in MANY parts of L.A. you have no business to be, unless you speak Spanish (which I do, among other languages, six in total). Europe AND USA, have their pros and cons, when it comes to daily living. The problem? One can not sit in two chairs at the same time! IF I could combine the open spaces/privacy of America, with,....European culture, way of life, cuisine, and some ways of doing business, ....I would be one HAPPY camper! Not possible,.....unfortunately.
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If all that doesn't make you a happy camper, I doubt that an improved American culture and better food would do it.
 
West Slope Rover said:
If all that doesn't make you a happy camper, I doubt that an improved American culture and better food would do it.
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You are probably right! Like I said in one of my other posts,.......IF you lived on (NOT visited as a tourist!) either side of the ocean, you will never be satisfied. Both sides have a LOT to offer, and deciding which one you like the best, can be hard. Kinda like being in love with two women! (possible,...been there!). HARD to decide, and no matter what you decide, you WILL miss the "other side". LOL!
 
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Danielsand said:
You are probably right! Like I said in one of my other posts,.......IF you lived on (NOT visited as a tourist!) either side of the ocean, you will never be satisfied. Both sides have a LOT to offer, and deciding which one you like the best, can be hard. Kinda like being in love with two women! (possible,...been there!). HARD to decide, and no matter what you decide, you WILL miss the "other side". LOL!
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I pick America, but I'm a schlub.
 
West Slope Rover said:
I live a life of redneckery in Colorado.
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I call BS on that! No redneck drives the LR. Period. IF you drive Bronco, Jeep, or something like that, you can call yourself a redneck, but not if you drive the LR (especially the Hippo)! LOL

I'm moving to Idaho/Montana (on the border), next year, and I'm looking forward to leaving CA (the politics, and EVERYTHING else!) for some more space.
 
Danielsand said:
I call BS on that! No redneck drives the LR. Period. IF you drive Bronco, Jeep, or something like that, you can call yourself a redneck, but not if you drive the LR (especially the Hippo)! LOL

I'm moving to Idaho/Montana (on the border), next year, and I'm looking forward to leaving CA (the politics, and EVERYTHING else!) for some more space.
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I drive a $500 Range Rover that is held together with wire, hose clamps and Atlantic British when it can't be bodged. Wouldn't be caught dead in a Hippo, unless I could find a runner for under $100.
 
West Slope Rover said:
I drive a $500 Range Rover that is held together with wire, hose clamps and Atlantic British when it can't be bodged. Wouldn't be caught dead in a Hippo, unless I could find a runner for under $100.
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I'm sorry if I have offended you. (LOL) I don't drive Hippo either (my wife's car, and the reason to be on this forum). I drive 06 L322, and it's my baby. MINT. 60K on the clock, and looking/performing like new.

But I LIKE Hippos! I think they are GREAT cars, and largely misunderstood in the States. I am looking forward to keeping this one on the road (I am committed DIY type), and seeing my wife's happy face when she drives it to and from work.

Have you EVER driven the Hippo? I don't think so. They have "something" (can't put my finger on it!). I think they are FUN, VERY capable in the snow/mountains, and just a pure enjoyment.

I've spent DECADES on keeping the Jags on the road, and caring for a Hippo is nothing new to me. With the help from the people on this forum, these cars can be maintained, and kept running good.

Since I was in the car business for about ten years, I know a LOT of people still in business. When I called upon them, they told me I'm NUTS for trying to refurbish a Hippo that came off the junkyard. I am a kind of guy that doesn't have "impossible" in his vocabulary. I DID put it back on the road, and I will make it go to 300K miles! It has 95K+ now, and it WILL go the distance. The best part? My wife has a grin on her face when she drives it, and you can't see any other ones on the CA roads.

I realize we hijacked this thread, and I apologize to the OP, and the moderators.
 
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Danielsand said:
I'm sorry if I have offended you. (LOL) I don't drive Hippo either (my wife's car, and the reason to be on this forum). I drive 06 L322, and it's my baby. MINT. 60K on the clock, and looking/performing like new.

But I LIKE Hippo's! I think they are GREAT cars, and largely misunderstood in the States. I am looking forward to keeping this one on the road (I am committed DIY type), and seeing my wife's happy face when she drives it to and from work.

Have you EVER driven the Hippo? I don't think so. They have "something" (can't put my finger on it!). I think they are FUN, VERY capable in the snow/mountains, and just a pure enjoyment.

I've spent DECADES on keeping the Jags on the road, and caring for a Hippo is nothing new to me. With the help from the people on this forum, these cars can be maintained, and kept running good.

Since I was in the car business for about ten years, I know a LOT of people still in business. When I called upon them, they told me I'm NUTS for trying to refurbish a Hippo that came off the junkyard. I am a kind of guy that doesn't have "impossible" in his vocabulary. I DID put it back on the road, and I will make it go to 300K miles! It has 95K+ now, and it WILL go the distance. The best part? My wife has a grin on her face when she drives it, and you can't see any other ones on the CA roads.

I realize we hijacked this thread, and I apologize to the OP, and the moderators.
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We're Americans. We don't apologize.
 
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