Freelander XEDI veggie oil

i can get b100 (british standard stuff) cheaply, so what you are saying is i can run my l-series freebie on it??

if it's proper bio there should be no problem, if you start to experience cold starting problems when the temp drops then start to add dieso to aid your cold starting. I have just run virtually empty (intentional) and then put 20L of 100% straight (from makro) soya oil in my tank to see if it would work. As the engine was warm there were no starting problems and the engine ran fine however i did notice a slight drop in acceleration. This was probably due to to the straight oil being a little thick for either the pump or the filter. Topped up with 3.5L of dino juice and I'm now running on 85/15 veg/dieso, I'll see how the engine handles a cold start in the morning and let you know.

Here's a quote from wikipedia:

"Biodiesel has better lubricating properties than that of today's diesel fuels. During the manufacture of these, to comply with low SO2 engine emission limits set in modern standards, severe hydro-treatment is included. Biodiesel addition reduces wear[17] increasing the life of the fuel injection equipment that relies on the fuel for its lubrication, such as high pressure injection pumps, pump injectors (also called unit injectors) and fuel injectors."

Depending on what yer using you may see deterioration of copper washers and such around yer injectors. Can be changed for plasticky ones fer pennies.

Don't think bio or veg oil will corrode copper. Could have been the case with higher sulpher fuels where the sulpher combines with water to form sulphuric or sulphorous acid which will attack metals. This was a bigger problem when engines were run on low loads for a while. As veg and bio are sulpher free (they do have free fatty acids but i don't think there much of a problem) this is not a concern. With bio you have issues with solvents but that is a different matter.

george99 said:

Here's a quote from wikipedia:

"Biodiesel has better lubricating properties than that of today's diesel fuels. During the manufacture of these, to comply with low SO2 engine emission limits set in modern standards, severe hydro-treatment is included. Biodiesel addition reduces wear[17] increasing the life of the fuel injection equipment that relies on the fuel for its lubrication, such as high pressure injection pumps, pump injectors (also called unit injectors) and fuel injectors."

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Fooking ell if it says so on Wikipedia then it must be true.




I'll be back later ahm just off ter write up the bit about how I is a sex god and everyone in the ole werld has ta send me £1, or their noses will fall orf.

redhand said:

Fooking ell if it says so on Wikipedia then it must be true.




I'll be back later ahm just off ter write up the bit about how I is a sex god and everyone in the ole werld has ta send me £1, or their noses will fall orf.

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Oi Mrs B, d'ya fancy a pint while pikey's doing that???

pint.... pint ............. someone mention a pint?

odenne said:

Oi Mrs B, d'ya fancy a pint while pikey's doing that???

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Where's me fooking quid? yer tite pasty munching wimmin stealing bastid?


Oh by the way me mate ses to tell yer to go easy with that Rohypnol yer bought off him. it's a bit strong parrently..

redhand said:

I'll be back later ahm just off ter write up the bit about how I is a sex god and everyone in the ole werld has ta send me £1, or their noses will fall orf.

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Where do I send me pound.

No probs starting the Hippo this morning on the 85/15 veg/dino mix. Done two keys of the glow plugs then she fired afterabout 2 seconds of cranking. The new battery seems to have done the trick.

redhand said:

Where's me fooking quid? yer tite pasty munching wimmin stealing bastid?

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Am goin fer the nose falling off option mate, there's plenty surplus and this way i stand to gain

redhand said:

Oh by the way me mate ses to tell yer to go easy with that Rohypnol yer bought off him. it's a bit strong parrently..

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Yeah, i found that out last night - gave a dose to me target as specified and now me hand can't remember a thing

just wandering how you freelander xedi guys are getting on using the veg mix,might have a change from my discovery 300tdi over to a freelander.mine runs no problems on a 80/20 mix but its little slow and would like something a bit more quicker!!

L series diesels only like veg oil if you have the pump thats driven by cam. The driven pump gets gummed up pretty quickly and they are a pain to replace, as they need to be locked correctly before removal.

Ok, been running my 1999 freelander on wvo for over a year now and no real probs yet ( touch wood ). I have a 100 litre water butt in the shed. I get wvo from chip shop. I have 1 micron filter sock in water but. Mix wvo with dino ( 50/50 ) and pour through filter into water but. from there I put it into jerry cans then into the car. On the car I have a small engine pre heater ( £80 ) and run that for 15 - 30 mins prior to starting ( heats up to 50degC ). It always starts instantaniously and the glow plugs don't work!! Have had 3 filters in that time ( she starts misfiring over 2500 revs ). Have done 14,000 miles. I have a diesel Rons tuning box on it too and K&N panel filter and she goes really well for an old Freelander. She's 2WD most of the time. 4WD if there's snow about. Tow a horsebox occasionally. Over the year have averaged 43.6 mpg. so at diesel costs that's about 80-85mpg taking into account filters and electricity to preheat. When temp below 12degC I increase diesel to 70%. I'm in Scotland. She may be slowly gumming up inside but no evidence of that yet. As a side note the fuel line between the filter and the pump is soldered to the heater pipes as standard so this helps a bit too. Oh forgot to mention I have wound up the turbo to 19psi as well. Should have gone from 98hp to 130 - 135ish!?

Update time: It's now Oct 2016 and 42,000mls in (185,000mls total ). Still running like a watch, well you know what I mean. MOT next week and I think rust underneath might kill her, but I hope not. Ran all summer on 2:1 veg. with no probs.

Yip MOT killed her...rust underneath...inner and outer sills plus rear floor:-( End of experiment.