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Dartmoor Navigator said:
Any way to check the TC function, Nodge? I suppose shoving it in a wet field should get it lit up.
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That would work;). The TC is self testing at startup. It's an integral function of the ABS system. If the ABS self test comes up OK, the TC will also be OK.
It is relatively easy to get the TC to activate. A simple cross axle situation will get the TC light to make an appearance. If you don't use much throttle, the front only will spin, activating the TC. However because it works by applying the brakes on the spinning wheel. There has to be sufficient torque to send to the other wheels with more grip. This is why there needs to be an excess of torque available to keep you moving.
A Freelander needs a very different driving style to a Defender or Discovery with low range box and lots of axle articulation.
 
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I recon its actually quite difficult to get TC to kick in on Freelander. I think you do literally have go out of your way to find an axle twister. When I've been running 4WD, I can't recall any tell-tale ABS/TC thumping going on - mind you , a lot of the time I've been running with 3 Amigos!

When I've been 2WD in places I should not really take it, I do get the thumping. I can usually only tell TC has kicked in by the thumping as my eyes are on stalks looking out the window picking a route and don't notice what's going on with the dash :)
 
GrumpyGel said:
I recon its actually quite difficult to get TC to kick in on Freelander. I think you do literally have go out of your way to find an axle twister. When I've been running 4WD, I can't recall any tell-tale ABS/TC thumping going on - mind you , a lot of the time I've been running with 3 Amigos!

When I've been 2WD in places I should not really take it, I do get the thumping. I can usually only tell TC has kicked in by the thumping as my eyes are on stalks looking out the window picking a route and don't notice what's going on with the dash :)
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Ah! Does the TC light not flick on?
 
Put the front left wheel on a pile of wet leaves and pull away fast while watching the dash (and where yer going) and tc will come on.
 
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Hippo said:
Put the front left wheel on a pile of wet leaves and pull fast while watching the dash (and where yer going) and tc will come on.
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Look Mystic Meg, has been and dun that :p

I found it hard to get TC to kick in on mud and loose surface (because the traction is very good) so I had the drivers side down hill and on wet grass with the passenger side up hill on tarmac - then gunned it! A trattor would have been easier to lose traction to be honest.

What is fantastic is that, with decent tyres, you have to struggle to get the car to lose traction. Secondly, the tyres (Yokohama Geolandar AT) are superb - trying to get ABS to kick in was difficult, the braking traction is far beyond what I expected.

In terms of traction the Freelander and a decent set of tyres takes some beating. Obviously a low box in other vehicles is essential for steep / changing terrain, but I am impressed with the Freelander. I've driven off road in series III, 90, 110, Disco, L200, Navara, Hilux and daily driven AWD like Yeti, Shogun and Subaru..... I don't think I've come across anything quite as sure footed for unmade roads and the sort of crap you may encounter on a winter roads.

Let's see what happens when the snow and ice sets in!


I owes Hippo an h'apology for taking the pi$$ out of such a tidy little set up!:oops::D
 
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Dartmoor Navigator said:
Look Mystic Meg, has been and dun that :p

I found it hard to get TC to kick in on mud and loose surface (because the traction is very good) so I had the drivers side down hill and on wet grass with the passenger side up hill - then gunned it! A trattor would have been easier to lose traction to be honest.

What is fantastic is that, with decent tyres, you have to struggle to get the car to lose traction. Secondly, the tyres (Yokohama Geolandar AT) are superb - trying to get ABS to kick in was difficult, the braking traction is far beyond what I expected.

In terms of traction the Freelander and a decent set of tyres takes some beating. Obviously a low box in other vehicles is essential for steep / changing terrain, but I am impressed with the Freelander. I've driven off road in series III, 90, 110, Disco, L200, Navara, Hilux and daily driven AWD like Yeti, Shogun and Subaru..... I don't think I've come across anything quite as sure footed for unmade roads and the sort of crap you may encounter on a winter roads.

Let's see what happens when the snow and ice sets in!


I owes Hippo an h'apology for taking the pi$$ out of such a tidy little set up!:oops::D
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No h'aplogy needed. Yer seen the light. Freelanders rule.
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Dartmoor Navigator said:
Look Mystic Meg, has been and dun that :p

I found it hard to get TC to kick in on mud and loose surface (because the traction is very good) so I had the drivers side down hill and on wet grass with the passenger side up hill on tarmac - then gunned it! A trattor would have been easier to lose traction to be honest.

What is fantastic is that, with decent tyres, you have to struggle to get the car to lose traction. Secondly, the tyres (Yokohama Geolandar AT) are superb - trying to get ABS to kick in was difficult, the braking traction is far beyond what I expected.

In terms of traction the Freelander and a decent set of tyres takes some beating. Obviously a low box in other vehicles is essential for steep / changing terrain, but I am impressed with the Freelander. I've driven off road in series III, 90, 110, Disco, L200, Navara, Hilux and daily driven AWD like Yeti, Shogun and Subaru..... I don't think I've come across anything quite as sure footed for unmade roads and the sort of crap you may encounter on a winter roads.

Let's see what happens when the snow and ice sets in!


I owes Hippo an h'apology for taking the pi$$ out of such a tidy little set up!:oops::D
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Good tyres on an able 4X4 system. The Freelander is better than many tratterers give it credit. It has to be driven to be believed.
Glad it's given you a positive impression.
 
Dartmoor Navigator said:
Look Mystic Meg, has been and dun that :p

I found it hard to get TC to kick in on mud and loose surface (because the traction is very good) so I had the drivers side down hill and on wet grass with the passenger side up hill on tarmac - then gunned it! A trattor would have been easier to lose traction to be honest.

What is fantastic is that, with decent tyres, you have to struggle to get the car to lose traction. Secondly, the tyres (Yokohama Geolandar AT) are superb - trying to get ABS to kick in was difficult, the braking traction is far beyond what I expected.

In terms of traction the Freelander and a decent set of tyres takes some beating. Obviously a low box in other vehicles is essential for steep / changing terrain, but I am impressed with the Freelander. I've driven off road in series III, 90, 110, Disco, L200, Navara, Hilux and daily driven AWD like Yeti, Shogun and Subaru..... I don't think I've come across anything quite as sure footed for unmade roads and the sort of crap you may encounter on a winter roads.

Let's see what happens when the snow and ice sets in!


I owes Hippo an h'apology for taking the pi$$ out of such a tidy little set up!:oops::D
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Cool words :)
 
I done 40 miles of green lanes on good road tyres, mainly gravel/mud and some wet grass. Never lost traction once. Did change to AT tyres after that just to do some more difficult lanes. Next year I'm changing my tyres to Mitchelin latitude cross as I don't go green laning anymore. But still go down the odd dirt track. Plus they look better lol :D
 
Alibro said:
Lol, I'm working on it. I plan to strap a camcorder to some part of the car so hopefully will have some footage.
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I find that fitting my Sammy Droid to the screen with a suction mount is the most effective way to record an off road trip these days. I can use the Torque app to overlay various data on the screen at the same time.
It's then easy to load it up to YouTube.
 
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I have an old phone mount which is pretty solid so will probably cable tie the camcorder to it. May also tie it to the mirror to make it extra stable. My camcorder is a Panasonic HDC SD90 and is soooooo much better than a phone camera. Much better quality, more stable and brilliant zoom. Can't overlay the torque app tho. :(
 
Alibro said:
I plan to take Bertie off road next Sunday at an off road event. He has Kumho AT tyres and a 2" lift so will report back how it went.
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Be fine mate, had 205/80/16 Kumho AT's with a 2" lift and 30mm spacers for a while. And done plenty of green lanes, was during the winter too. :)
 
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