Freelander TD4 Loses power and stalls

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Hi Guys,

I’m sure I’m not the first or the last to encounter this – but! I’ve got a Freelander TD4 (2004). It’s 8 years old and on the whole there haven’t been too many problems with it. However today it’s done something really strange. Basically whilst driving along it’s suddenly lost power and started to feel like there was no umph across all power bands and gear ratios. I managed to nurse it a few more miles with some of the power sort of kicking back in from time to time before eventually losing all power and the engine stalling. I was then unable to restart the engine and had to have the vehicle recovered. It with the Land Rover guys for them to take a look but just wonder if anyone has come across this before?

Cheers.
 
……so wear and tear coming with the age of the vehicle or just something that can go at any time. I’m guessing wear and tear given there must be a limited number of cycles an electro mechanical pump can run?
 
no rhyme or reason to when they go. my colleagues went at 50k, mine got to 90k+

does sound like low pressure pump, if you have it replaced, make sure you get a genuine part. patterns don't seem to last anywhere near as long as the genuine ones.
 
Got the car back from the Land Rover guys and surprise surprise it was the low pressure fuel pump. The one that sits just above the fuel tank on the drivers side rear wheel arch. The Land Rover guys reckon they can go at any time and hinted that their not the best feature on a Freelander. They’ve fitted an original so hopefully it will last a while. The previous one did 80k. What is interesting though is that there’s no telemetry to the dash board for a failing fuel pump. Not the only thing missing in Telemetry. There’s also no warning for break pad wear! Anyway it’s all fixed up now and if it lasts as long as the last one then that’s vehicle end of life anyway – sort of….

Thanks to those who chipped in on this thread. Cheers guys.
 
hoogle said:
Got the car back from the Land Rover guys and surprise surprise it was the low pressure fuel pump. The one that sits just above the fuel tank on the drivers side rear wheel arch. The Land Rover guys reckon they can go at any time and hinted that their not the best feature on a Freelander. They’ve fitted an original so hopefully it will last a while. The previous one did 80k. What is interesting though is that there’s no telemetry to the dash board for a failing fuel pump. Not the only thing missing in Telemetry. There’s also no warning for break pad wear! Anyway it’s all fixed up now and if it lasts as long as the last one then that’s vehicle end of life anyway – sort of….

Thanks to those who chipped in on this thread. Cheers guys.
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Do any cars have a warning light (or Telemetry as you call it) for a failing fuel pump? Aircraft do - but in which cars does one find that?

I seem to have the idea that some Audi vehicles have pad wear indicator lamps, but most cars have a warning light which alerts the driver to an unspecified brake problem, such as low fluid, failure of one of the twin circuits, handbrake on etc. as well as the brake pad possibility.
 
some of the brake pads (oem?) had a small piece of spring metal embedded in the pad - when they wore low would rub on the disk and make a squealing noise when you braked.
 
Yep – this has been common on a lot of vehicles now for some time. Pad wears down – sensor couple makes contact with break disk – circuit completes – warning light goes back to dash board! Basic stuff ; but not on Freelanders!

Fuel pump fails – electrical potential drops – signal goes back to engine management console and dashboard warning light comes on – but not on Freelanders!

Not sure if this has changed on the FL2? Anyone?
 
hoogle said:
Yep – this has been common on a lot of vehicles now for some time. Pad wears down – sensor couple makes contact with break disk – circuit completes – warning light goes back to dash board! Basic stuff ; but not on Freelanders!

Fuel pump fails – electrical potential drops – signal goes back to engine management console and dashboard warning light comes on – but not on Freelanders!

Not sure if this has changed on the FL2? Anyone?
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Now I understand what you meant.

When many of these dash warning lights come on you still don't know for sure which item has actually failed

I thought you were meaning a warning light specifically to warn of pad wear, and another light dedicated solely to the fuel pump.

I can imagine that it would be easy to include the fuel pump under the general engine malfunction heading if the pump was to actually fail. But that would not specifically tell you which one of a whole raft of items monitored by that circuit was the culprit.

However I think it would be a bit more high-tech to have a dedicated warning for a failing pump, rather than a failed pump.
 
Freelander 2 dont have break pad wear indicators either.

Only LM, LS and LA have them.

Well im pretty sure Evoque dont have them anyway.
 
my mondeo and granada did have low pad wear indicators and low water ones as well but eventually saw the light and swaped one oval badge for another one granada 2.9 was very quick though but did not like corners but the modeo was nearly as fast (sport model) and stuck to the ground like it had supper glue on corners
 
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Hi,with reference to the original question my 04 sport with 67000 miles has a similar problem,absolutely fine when you start off and fine even when up to temperature,the problem starts after about 25 minutes running time,driving along at a constant speed and I can feel the car just holding back on me which comes and goes on and off,then when you reach the next junction or roundabout you change down waitng for the car in front to move away,when you re apply the accelerator the car almost stalls,you have to dip the clutch and rev up and start your manouver again,any ideas from you guys sure would be appreciated,have changed turbo boost filter,changed turbo hoses,changed vacuum hoses,fitted upgraded crank breather,fitted new air mass meter,air filter,do you think it could be low pressure pump?
 
A friend had the same on a transit. When cold all fine, when the system heats up, it loses power to nothing. Turned out to be a clogged exhaust (mainly cat)
 
Singvogel said:
Do any cars have a warning light (or Telemetry as you call it) for a failing fuel pump? Aircraft do - but in which cars does one find that?

I seem to have the idea that some Audi vehicles have pad wear indicator lamps, but most cars have a warning light which alerts the driver to an unspecified brake problem, such as low fluid, failure of one of the twin circuits, handbrake on etc. as well as the brake pad possibility.
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the one in the air craft does not help much especially when you are 35,000 ft up
 
hoogle said:
Got the car back from the Land Rover guys and surprise surprise it was the low pressure fuel pump. The one that sits just above the fuel tank on the drivers side rear wheel arch. The Land Rover guys reckon they can go at any time and hinted that their not the best feature on a Freelander. They’ve fitted an original so hopefully it will last a while. The previous one did 80k. What is interesting though is that there’s no telemetry to the dash board for a failing fuel pump. Not the only thing missing in Telemetry. There’s also no warning for break pad wear! Anyway it’s all fixed up now and if it lasts as long as the last one then that’s vehicle end of life anyway – sort of….

Thanks to those who chipped in on this thread. Cheers guys.
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Out of intrest what did they charge for the pump and labour ?
 
Just bringing this up again.
03 TD4 135k miles, wouldn't go over 2750 rpm this morning, then stalled.
After new filter (old one said '02' on it!) and inserting emergency gallon just to be sure, it still won't go over 2750rpm. I've cleaned the gauze in the fuel intake in tank while I've been outside tonight.

Fuel pump would be my next plan tomorrow judging by the threads on here, any other comments.

Thanks one and all,
Neil, D2 driver by day.
 
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