Freelander 2001 TD4 OBDII Socket or Not??

Hi biggeeeeee,

Thanks for the response, but it was worth a try!

If you look in the hawkeye menus it lists all sorts of cars. BMW and mini spring to mind. Not sure if they work (with a suitable license) or if they're just there due to generic software library's. I would guess it won't as they've gone to the effort of licensing access.

Hippo said:

If you look in the hawkeye menus it lists all sorts of cars. BMW and mini spring to mind. Not sure if they work (with a suitable license) or if they're just there due to generic software library’s. I would guess it won't as they've gone to the effort of licensing access.

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Hi Hippo,
Been looking at the hawkeye, just one question really, you have already answered most.
The licence, when it says a different model, am I safe in assuming that coded for FL1 Td4, would mean I could read any FL1 Td4, but would have to buy another licence for Disco Td4. But I could read my 55 commercial and the wife's 54 sport td4 with one licence?

Pompey said:

Hi Hippo,
Been looking at the hawkeye, just one question really, you have already answered most.
The licence, when it says a different model, am I safe in assuming that coded for FL1 Td4, would mean I could read any FL1 Td4, but would have to buy another licence for Disco Td4. But I could read my 55 commercial and the wife's 54 sport td4 with one licence?

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hi mate

basically yes, I've got a hawkeye and the licence are locked to one name of Land Rover

ie freelander 1 , will read all the models and engines of freelander 1 , but would need another licence , for the freelander 2

would then need another licence for a disco td5 etc

hope that makes sense , lol

if u look on the hawkeye website it will list all the models each licence will cover

gstuart said:

hi mate

basically yes, I've got a hawkeye and the licence are locked to one name of Land Rover

ie freelander 1 , will read all the models and engines of freelander 1 , but would need another licence , for the freelander 2

would then need another licence for a disco td5 etc

hope that makes sense , lol

if u look on the hawkeye website it will list all the models each licence will cover

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That's great thanks GStuart. I think I will order one pretty soon.

Pompey said:

That's great thanks GStuart. I think I will order one pretty soon.

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ur very welcome , great bit of kit, there are other testers around but for the life of me can't remember the names

there's quite a few of us who have these Hawkeyes, if u ask there may be someone near u who could show u one working before u buy one

That would be great.

Using this forum I believe the others are not as good, there is one about £75 but from what I have read is a read only device. There is another PScan? About £150 but no SRS or ABS read/ change ability, the Hawkeye, which I have read nothng but good £300, then the T-Tool £4500 ish.

No competition really, might sound a big initial outlay, but should be worth it in the long run as long as we stick with our FL's

Pompey said:

That would be great.

Using this forum I believe the others are not as good, there is one about £75 but from what I have read is a read only device. There is another PScan? About £150 but no SRS or ABS read/ change ability, the Hawkeye, which I have read nothng but good £300, then the T-Tool £4500 ish.

No competition really, might sound a big initial outlay, but should be worth it in the long run as long as we stick with our FL's

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I bought the hawkeye as I knew it would work correctly due to mine not being obd2 compliant as its a 2002 , agree it was expensive but has paid for itself many times over th not having to visit my local Land Rover dealer or stealers as the case may be

plus u will also need a small connector that goes into the lead, for a couple of the sections, abs and security I think ????

Just bought the Lynx which is - as far as I can ascertain a lot better than the Hawkeye. It appears to do everything that the hawkeye can do and also works with a laptop so you can actually log in real time whilst saving to laptop HD. It is slightly cheaper than the hawkeye.
When doing diagnostics I dont want to be looking at some tiny little built in screen - laptop all the way !. again, the unit is coded to 1 TYPE of Land Rover - eg a freelander 1 - covers ALL models of FL1 from beginning to end of production and is not vin locked of course.
You would need to do a direct comparison of the capabilities of the Lynx compared to the Hawkeye for your TD4 - I have an L series (the far far better Diesel engine lol )
Check the features against the Hawkeye - It was a no brainer for me as the Hawkeye didnt even support the 27VT CCU !!!! - however - YMMV !! - so check.
Have just received it - last week - and been away so am waiting to do a personal review on it .

Mean time - http://www.lynx-diagnostics.com/

Chose what is best for you - the laptop and real logging facilities makes the lynx a hands down winner for me.
Cheers
Joe

I have a Nanocom (Blackbox Systems Nano). It is strictly for Land Rover and MG/Rover vehicles. I have used mine on my MGF for years and it is a full featured diagnostic, similar to a T4. Apparently the developers are ex-Rover engineers. It doesn't just read and reset codes but has a full readout and can communicate with all the LR boxes as well as program key fobs.. That said, it is a bit fussy to set up and use. I only recently got the software for my Freelander and am working at getting it to work properly. Being better with computers would help but I now have everything but the engine module working. It isn't as cheap as the simple OBD-type readers and is geared more toward shops. You can either but the modules as a single vehicle set or as single modules for use on any number of vehicles (This is the more expensive option)

Pompey said:

Hi Hippo,
Been looking at the hawkeye, just one question really, you have already answered most.
The licence, when it says a different model, am I safe in assuming that coded for FL1 Td4, would mean I could read any FL1 Td4, but would have to buy another licence for Disco Td4. But I could read my 55 commercial and the wife's 54 sport td4 with one licence?

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Yes. A hawkeye licensed for use on a Freelander 1 (only needs 1 license to do this) will work on all Freelander 1's. It will talk to all the computers in all Freelander 1's. If at a later date you wish to take up welding you can add a Discovery 2 license. Hence yer Hawkeye would then be able to talk to all Freelander 1's and all Discovery 2's. But don't leave it or the battery connected when welding.

Since buying my hawkeye there's a greater number of products available on the market. The ability, price and quality vary quite a bit. Some of the advertising is suggestive to say the least. I like the one where they reference their product against the T4 (test book LR use) saying it can do more than T4 and therefore betterer, by default of it being able to program LR vehicles with none approved software. If it's not approved by LR then their dealers are not allowed to do it. Hence T4 won't allow it. We're talking model/vehicle updates between different years/vehicles or somebody's own software mod.

Some of the generic odbii scanners have come a long way over the years. Some have gone further by offering more specially for LR owners. At first glance this looks interesting. Problem is a lot of these devices are sold from outside the uk. Hence there's no come back if you have problems once you've paid. Some will confirm anything by email before you buy. Some I've come across don't answer their support email once purchased. Some don't even have their own test rig LR vehicles so they can't test their product to make sure it works. Nit picking I know but it is helpful. One would assume they're relying on the general odbii compliance working. Others just simply copy someone else's product and rebrand it as their own. I would hazard a guess it's not the first time someone's eves-dropped a T4 to see what's going on. The moral problem with this is they haven't done the work but get paid. This takes money away from those doing the work, which reduces future product development work. There's not much point investing for no return. At the end of the day they're in business to make money. If they don't they stop trading.

When I bought my hawkeye I had the chance of a second hand T4. I don't think it would have been a good purchase as the information it can provide is mind blowing. It's not just being able to get the data. Understanding it and weeding out what to follow can be difficult if you don't know. I just wanted an easy to use device to rear/clear error codes in all computers on my hippo, with the option of live data and updating the software if newer versions are available. Hawkeye can do this and more. The license also allows it to work on other hippo's anorl, which is a benefit. I wanted to be able to store it in the boot so I had it with me all the time. Computer options were available but they don't travel well if they have spinning disks. A stolen computer would be annoying but a stolen hawkeye has limited use as I could advise bearmach/omitec its stolen and the serial number. I would hope they would look out for it if someone asks for its license to be changed when updating its software. The hawkeye is hardwired using a removable cable. Many of the new code readers offer blue tooth connection. This I feel is dangerous if you leave it connected to yer vehicle as it allows someone to access yer computers to unlock doors etc.

When I bought my hawkeye it was relatively new and considered expensive. I took a big risk as there wasn't many people who had one. So far I've had 3 software updates as the product seems to be having additional development work done on it. I assume this is linked to new vehicles coming out. All of the updates so far have included Freelander 1 additions/changes.

The link below gives the options the hawkeye has. It also contains the options for the hawkeye pro, which is a much betterer device than the hawkeye. It's price is far higher but that’s down to the software being unlocked for all LR products. The hawkeye pro is aimed more at the professional/garage user. The hawkeye is aimed at the diy owner.

http://bearmach.com/wp-content/them...awkeye-downloads/hawkeye-application-list.pdf

I should add I don't have shares in any code reading company or work for them. I is a lone hippo trying to keep my hippo on the road. The video's are filmed for fun and as a reference for myself and others for future comparison for faulting finding. Whatever device you choose to buy I would suggest you spend some time using it to get to know it. This will make using it to find faults less nerve racking at a later date.

Some video examples of my hawkeye in the link below. More to follow soon.

https://www.youtube.com/user/HippoPhoto/videos

"Whatever device you choose to buy I would suggest you spend some time using it to get to know it. This will make using it to find faults less nerve racking at a later date."

Good advice Hippo. You speak the truth!
I find that I don't use my Blackbox enough to be able to get the most out of it when needed.
Fortunately I am blessed with vehicles that don't break down all that much.
(Furiously crossing fingers and toes!)