Freelander 2 Driver - I'm not impressed

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Jodsclass said:
And to be honest I don't know many FL2 owners willing to get their hands dirty with their cars, especially as most are probably still under warranty.

I owned minis for years, 4 of them. That community is exactly the same, the BMW version isn't a mini. The FL2 is a minature range rover, nothihg affordable about it, and you certainly wouldn't risk damaging it.
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Strangely, the day after I picked mine up I had the wheels off to fit mud flaps. By the time it was 5 days old, it had been green laning. It's 1 month old and it's got 3,500 miles on it already.

I had MINIs for 7 years and there was an awful lot of ill feeling from Classic Mini owners, including spitting and abuse. In our part of the country, the Newquay Rivera event was something that was particularly spoiled by it.

It's such a shame, as if it hadn't been for BMW, the Classic Mini would have finished production around 1994 (before the Mk 6 was launched) and Cowley would have been entirely sold off for supermarkets and business parks, rather than just 3/4's of it, by BAe in the 90's.
 
Tigger said:
Strangely, the day after I picked mine up I had the wheels off to fit mud flaps. By the time it was 5 days old, it had been green laning. It's 1 month old and it's got 3,500 miles on it already.

I had MINIs for 7 years and there was an awful lot of ill feeling from Classic Mini owners, including spitting and abuse. In our part of the country, the Newquay Rivera event was something that was particularly spoiled by it.

It's such a shame, as if it hadn't been for BMW, the Classic Mini would have finished production around 1994 (before the Mk 6 was launched) and Cowley would have been entirely sold off for supermarkets and business parks, rather than just 3/4's of it, by BAe in the 90's.
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Good points well made. I just wish there was some distinction between the two. Classic minis are generally owned by enthusiasts and loved. I went on many events including the Liverpool to Blackpool charity runs where spoilt brats would turn up in their brand new minis and have no part in the club or the banter. We would be talking about deseaming, changing sub frames & radius arms, talking about mg metro A+ engine conversions and the rest of the stuff that goes with it.

I hope that the FL2 does become more affordable as they get older and people start to get them and get involved in fixing them, but for now they are out of the reach of most.
 
Having owned 4 FL1's and a FL2 I think i have good authority to comment on this and personally I think it sounds like a bit of green eyed monster here :p

The FL2 is in everyway a far superior car on and off road from the FL1.

My Freelander 2 is shiney more than it is dirty, many a time i have taken it off road and got it upto the diff in mud.

Wish i could post from Flickr on my works machine to prove it :frusty:

Probably will when i get home.
 
Jodsclass said:
Good points well made. I just wish there was some distinction between the two. Classic minis are generally owned by enthusiasts and loved. I went on many events including the Liverpool to Blackpool charity runs where spoilt brats would turn up in their brand new minis and have no part in the club or the banter. We would be talking about deseaming, changing sub frames & radius arms, talking about mg metro A+ engine conversions and the rest of the stuff that goes with it.

I hope that the FL2 does become more affordable as they get older and people start to get them and get involved in fixing them, but for now they are out of the reach of most.
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My Mrs and I love the Classic and we've been to events going back as far as the 30th birthday celebrations at Silverston in 1989. It's a shame as we were never in a position to own and run one, though we were able to use a new MINI from 2004 to 2010. I think you'd be surprised with the amounts of genuine enthusiasts with current MINIs who aren't spoiled brats, though there are a still a few with more money than sense who talk a whole load of bolloc*s, so I'm partially with you there! :lol: :rolleyes:
 
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First Mini I owned was back in 1966 what a rust bucket that turned out to be. Common faults used to be the ends breaking off the rear suspension cones, CV joint failure, rear subframes corroding round the fixing points and dropping the rear suspension (1100 were the same) engine/transmission leaks, electric fuel pump failure, ignition shorting out everytime it rained and handbrake cables seizing on the rear pivots, still didn't stop me buying a few more though.
 
Jodsclass said:
So this guy decided to park right next to me to try and show off his car. Really mate? You looked like you have just strolled off the golf course & you probably paid way too much for that car! Anyways had to take photos for laughs (you should have seen the guys grin & swagger) then he was bemused as to why I was taking photos.

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No comment. (As a good politician....:D:D:D:D)
 
nickcc said:
First Mini I owned was back in 1966 what a rust bucket that turned out to be. Common faults used to be the ends breaking off the rear suspension cones, CV joint failure, rear subframes corroding round the fixing points and dropping the rear suspension (1100 were the same) engine/transmission leaks, electric fuel pump failure, ignition shorting out everytime it rained and handbrake cables seizing on the rear pivots, still didn't stop me buying a few more though.
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I had a Morris Mini 850 myself, bought it new in 1966 as well, have kept it for 4 years and did 86.000 kms (53.438 miles) with it. Had also the rear pivots problem but as far as I can remember nothing else went wrong with it. I had put 2 cm spacers on each of the four wheels as well as an Abarth sport exhaust of which, (by accident:D) everything inside (the inner perforated tube and the insulation glasswool) came out so the whole thing was just an empty shell, on free throttle it sounded as a big yank V8, once you had to give gas it was something else, that small, pink thick exhaust pipe couldn't fill the exhaust enough to make a decent noise...:):):):). But was fun to drive, especially with the spacers and the Dunlop Sport tyres, it was a big kart. Only thing was that the four wheels/tyres came slightly (1 cm) out of the body, when under load on the way to vacation for example the least bodymovement made it rub on the wheels.
 
on another note - Well today (after much persuasion and pestering by my older sister and parents) im going take my shiny range rover to a horse show in a muddy field whilst pulling 2 big old Horses in a trailer behind it.

suppose i need to at least try and use it for what its made for ! lol :(

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willo said:
I had a Morris Mini 850 myself, bought it new in 1966 as well, have kept it for 4 years and did 86.000 kms (53.438 miles) with it. Had also the rear pivots problem but as far as I can remember nothing else went wrong with it. I had put 2 cm spacers on each of the four wheels as well as an Abarth sport exhaust of which, (by accident:D) everything inside (the inner perforated tube and the insulation glasswool) came out so the whole thing was just an empty shell, on free throttle it sounded as a big yank V8, once you had to give gas it was something else, that small, pink thick exhaust pipe couldn't fill the exhaust enough to make a decent noise...:):):):). But was fun to drive, especially with the spacers and the Dunlop Sport tyres, it was a big kart. Only thing was that the four wheels/tyres came slightly (1 cm) out of the body, when under load on the way to vacation for example the least bodymovement made it rub on the wheels.
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Remember the big bore silencer, paddy hopkirk pedal pads and the seat extender brackets plus the small leather steering wheel. My wheel spacers just knackered the wheel bearings but when you drive with half a brain what do you expect. Now I'm just one of the miserable old gits who moan about speeding youngsters, just grateful they aren't as daft as I used to be :)
 
nickcc said:
Remember the big bore silencer, paddy hopkirk pedal pads and the seat extender brackets plus the small leather steering wheel. My wheel spacers just knackered the wheel bearings but when you drive with half a brain what do you expect. Now I'm just one of the miserable old gits who moan about speeding youngsters, just grateful they aren't as daft as I used to be :)
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I know how you feel. I think I still have the steering wheel in my cave.:)
 
nickcc said:
Remember the big bore silencer, paddy hopkirk pedal pads and the seat extender brackets plus the small leather steering wheel. My wheel spacers just knackered the wheel bearings but when you drive with half a brain what do you expect. Now I'm just one of the miserable old gits who moan about speeding youngsters, just grateful they aren't as daft as I used to be :)
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Some years back my youngest daughter had an original Mini Cooper Monte-Carlo of 1994, (it's sold 4 years ago) and when I had to drive it to the MOT I was again sitting in the car as I used to, with my knees next to my ears but with a smile from ear to ear, taking corners as a mad man. I had in mine also these seat extender brackets, they gave just an inch extra, no big deal but who cared, Haven't had any wheel bearing problems. My spacers were just pieces of aluminium with the four holes in it, extended bolts I had to screw over the original bolts and at the other side it was the thread for the original screws, the spacers just fitted over them.

Here a picture of the add my daughter made to sell her mini.


And here a picture of my Mini back in the '60's with my youngest daughter standing behind it.
 
crashbox said:
Just nipped out to the cave and found two hanging up on the roof joists.:D
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The greasepump in that green plastic bag (in pic 2) was a piece of equipment you needed with the mini, there were about 12 greasepoints I believe and the two points in the side of the car for the rear suspension arms could get kilo's of grease.....:D
 
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