Four red flashes from kicker lite????

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thepipersson said:
Well I'm going to sort that out as soon as I can sort this out!! it's a must by all accounts lol

Ok so what a bad 24hrs this has been. I got back a 19:30 last night after a hard days graft to find my lead and CD.. whoop whoop. So straight away I was out there chucked the battery back in the old girl (thought I'd give her the best chance as I'd been playing around whilst just sitting there) to find "Key Code Lock Out" so a quick scout on here found out I had to wait half hour and put the code in..... Which I didn't have!!
A further scout about found a suggestion of code 1515 still no joy even after trying four clicks to the left first. A couple more attempts and it was bed time
So today went to LR got the code still NO JOY, I decided to try buying new batteries for the fob, changed them and then, yes you guessed it the key wouldn't work!! back to LR bought a new back part to the fob he tested it on his machine and hey presto it was working again! and then he gave me some instructions and hey presto lock out code gone, engine disabled gone and it started up! I didn't even have to put the EKA code in result.
So now I've been trying to get this EAS suite to work when I initialize it.. it stays red and says not good idle?.. I'm going to try a few other ports now and see if I get any joy (just popped back in to charge the laptop up a bit... But I would appreciate it if you have any ideas!!
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I suppose you read the instructions? Ignition on etc? If the cable you bought is a USB cable, did you load the driver before you plugged it in? Are you running Vista? If you bought a USB to serial adaptor where did you get it and what details of it do you have?
Vista and USB to serial adaptors are not best friends and some USB to serial adaptors do not have the full RS232 control lines.
Finaly, it could be corrosion in your OBD connector.
 
oh god it gets worse, ebay of course DOH, as for details it turned up CD and leads that's it. I'm running windows 8 and its a serial adapter. I have checked by the socket for corrosion, none there?
 
thepipersson said:
oh god it gets worse, ebay of course DOH, as for details it turned up CD and leads that's it. I'm running windows 8 and its a serial adapter. I have checked by the socket for corrosion, none there?
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OK Win 8 I do not know, but Win 7 is better than Vista with USB to serial adaptors, so hopefully 8 is OK. Have you checked on the CD for instructions?
Did you load the USB to serial driver before you plugged the adapter in?
 
thepipersson said:
Ok so yep your right, there is some USB drivers on there but I can not get it to install arrrrrrggghhhh
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If you plugged the adaptor in before you installed the driver you could have a problem as Win will have installed a generic driver that will not work.
Moral, always read the instructions first:clap2:
 
thepipersson said:
Great, so what do I have to do know then?
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Uninstall the generic driver if Win has installed one, then install the correct driver. I can't tell you how to do that on Win8, I've never had to do it.
You can try to install the correct driver then plug the adaptor into a different USB socket, I have known that to work in the past.
 
ahhh ok Ill give that ago I wouldn't know where to start to uninstall drivers, I can turn a computer on and use it... anything more than that and I'm screwed lol.
If anybody else is reading this take note of what Datatek has said always read first.

But to be honest, the amount of files on there in the USB driver list I wouldn't know which one to use!! and of course I have now installed the complimentary SIM Scanner and SIM Editor WTF is that?? more poo they installed on this CD!!! not a happy chap.

Right going to try and plug it in a different usb port...

This is the list I got in a folder called USB Drivers;
CH341PRT
HL0108
PL2303
R340
USBIOX
Usb-sim9.0
CH341SER

Of course being the computer wizard that I'm not... that means nothing to me.

A couple wont install and I'm not sure if it is because I'm on Win 8!!
 
thepipersson said:
ahhh ok Ill give that ago I wouldn't know where to start to uninstall drivers, I can turn a computer on and use it... anything more than that and I'm screwed lol.
If anybody else is reading this take note of what Datatek has said always read first.

But to be honest, the amount of files on there in the USB driver list I wouldn't know which one to use!! and of course I have now installed the complimentary SIM Scanner and SIM Editor WTF is that?? more poo they installed on this CD!!! not a happy chap.

Right going to try and plug it in a different usb port...

This is the list I got in a folder called USB Drivers;
CH341PRT
HL0108
PL2303
R340
USBIOX
Usb-sim9.0
CH341SER

Of course being the computer wizard that I'm not... that means nothing to me.

A couple wont install and I'm not sure if it is because I'm on Win 8!!
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If there are no clear instructions as to which driver to use I'd chuck the lot back at the seller. At a guess, PL2303 is likely to be the correct driver, no idea what the rest of that stuff is.
 
I think your right and that's what I think I will do, but I have found out why it wont work the drivers are not compatible with WIN8... He could of said that in his ADD
 
thepipersson said:
I think your right and that's what I think I will do, but I have found out why it wont work the drivers are not compatible with WIN8... He could of said that in his ADD
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Win7 & 8 are a problem with finging the correct drivers. Sendit back, get a refund, buy a cable from me and source a Win 8 compatable USB to serial adaptor. They can be found for as little as £2.:D
 
I have spoke to them and I'm waiting a resolution, in all fairness it works. (I think) I used my friends laptop with windows 7 it found it through plug and play and in device manager it showed on port 3 and in the software the comm port was 3 so I'm guessing it works.

The reason I'm guessing, of course is because 3 laptop's later last night (all showing connected in device manager) still produced the same answer -NO-IDLE-!!!! that as well as the BBS Kicker lite showing the four red flashing lights, just makes me think it's not getting a hart beat to the system

I just don't know what to do now... I'm going to have to check the continuity I think? I don't know where to start or really what I'm doing to be honest... any tips?? Dare I say it might even end up on coils at this rate... (I hope not though :mad:)
 
thepipersson said:
I have spoke to them and I'm waiting a resolution, in all fairness it works. (I think) I used my friends laptop with windows 7 it found it through plug and play and in device manager it showed on port 3 and in the software the comm port was 3 so I'm guessing it works.

The reason I'm guessing, of course is because 3 laptop's later last night (all showing connected in device manager) still produced the same answer -NO-IDLE-!!!! that as well as the BBS Kicker lite showing the four red flashing lights, just makes me think it's not getting a hart beat to the system

I just don't know what to do know... I'm going to have to check the continuity I think? I don't know where to start or really what I'm doing to be honest... any tips?? Dare I say it might even end up on coils at this rate... (I hope not though :mad:)
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The fact that the device manager shows it's connected does NOT mean it will communicate:eek:
I suppose you have the engine running when you try it?
 
Yeah I guessed that, but am I right in thinking the problem is not the computer, but the car?

What I'm trying to say is, I'm sure the program and lead work with the computer, so why will my car not communicate with it?
 
thepipersson said:
Yeah I guessed that, but am I right in thinking the problem is not the computer, but the car?

What I'm trying to say is, I'm sure the program and lead work with the computer, so why will my car not communicate with it?
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Two possibilites, first, as I've said repeatedly, the USB to serial adaptor driver, you loaded a Win generic driver again, I've never known that to work. The other possibility is corroded OBD connector or the white connector behind the passenger kick panel on the door jamb.

Just to clarify, the generic driver appears to operate the serial comms using Xon/Xoff which is done using just the RX & TX lines. The EAS requires the RTS line to operate and so needs the correct driver.
 
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Sorry maybe I should of explained a bit better for my laptop I got a driver from here https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7FildjsrNkILWhYVHYwanJLS3c/edit?usp=sharing after doing a bit of research through Microsoft.. So I would hope that would be the right one?
I have checked and checked and checked again all the connectors are fine even the connectors behind the kick panel, I've cleaned them all with a electric spray cleaner and the ones in the valve block.
Please don't think I'm ignoring any of the advice on here I'm treating this like the bible and I'm grateful for all your advice
 
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