Folding Rear seats

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bass4carl

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Hi Folks

I've got 4 folding seats that were shoved in the back when I bought my 90. Separate backs on a frame and seats (with the hinged brackets at the back and swinging hinged leg at the front), with no fixings - any tips on how to get them fitted in?:confused:

I figure the back supports simply take a nut and bolt (8mm hole) to the van side under my sliding window, but am struggling to figure out the best way to secure them to the wheel arch - would big self tappers do it, or do I need some other method?

Also, anywhere obvious to attach lap belts (not that I have any yet...)?

it'll give me a job for the weekend if anyone can shed any light (unless of course my 200tdi engine arrives at which point it'll be in the garage being fitted - HURRAH!).:D

Cheers!
 
Do not use self tappers, they'll come out in no time!!!!


They are easy to fit. You need to bolt through the rear tub, with a large washer or steel plate underneath. The tub is ally and the seats may rip out if you dont spread the load a bit.
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I removed a set of these not very long ago - so....

The bases were attached to the wheel arch with bolts and nuts on the underside of the wheel arch. So unless you're Mr Tickle, you'll need a helper.

The seat backs were, as you say, attached to the cappings, again with bolts and nuts slid inside the capping. They were also bolted through the wheel arch in the same way as the bases.

As for the seat belts, this could be a little trickier. My car is a CSW, so the lap belts were fitted as standard. Seat belt bolts are, for some reason, an imperial size (can't remember off the top of my head), and these went through the wheel arch into brace bars that had nuts welded onto them. I would not be keen just bolting these through the wheel box without some form of reinforcement - the last thing you want is the seat belt pulling through at the time it's actually needed.

Hope that helps.

Ian.
 
Noted on the self tappers Ad - I'll look at some bolt options then, cheers.

MRJC - ta for the link...thank god I'm not fitting them, i'll stick to the side facing one's for now!
 
Ian - that's helped loads. I had a feeling I'd need a little helper, not being too sure how to hold one bit inside and the other outside!

Maybe I'll get the seats fitted for now, and sort out the lap belts later on...
 
instantsquid said:
So unless you're Mr Tickle, you'll need a helper.
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:confused2: Lol I am worried I may be Mr Tickle! As I did mine all alone! Just wedged the ajustable spanner in the wheel arch and had it tight on the nut.

Ok every now and again it falls off but I couldn't be bothered waiting for my helper to return from Mc Donnalds! Lol. (Mole grips would have been better!)

Still looking for the TD4 Seat Belt Holders at the moment to finish my truck. I will post the photos of the Washers I used asap (Forgot to take camera when I went to do it) I used B and Q's Square repair washers and choped one of the corners off in order to get them up to the body work.

I am also going to ply line kit (with foam insulation behind) and fit metal chequre on the floor before I am finished!

I have had to get some straps to stop the ratteling sounds from all the folding bits!

Its an easy job to do so don't be put off. Just make sure you check all seat belt mountings by pulling on them hard and noting any movement, flex, or distorsion to the bolt/washer/car.
 
TBH not sure what value seat belts are on side facing seats, apart from stopping the kids from running about in the back whilst you're driving along.;)

Always get the feeling they wouldn't be much benefit in a crash, but have never been involved in one yet touchwood, so who knows.
 
the daddy said:
:confused2: Lol I am worried I may be Mr Tickle! As I did mine all alone! Just wedged the ajustable spanner in the wheel arch and had it tight on the nut.
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Haha - funnily enough that's how I removed mine, but I kind of figured it would be right PITA to refit them without an extra pair of hands!

the daddy said:
Still looking for the TD4 Seat Belt Holders at the moment to finish my truck. I will post the photos of the Washers I used asap (Forgot to take camera when I went to do it) I used B and Q's Square repair washers and choped one of the corners off in order to get them up to the body work.

I am also going to ply line kit (with foam insulation behind) and fit metal chequre on the floor before I am finished!

I have had to get some straps to stop the ratteling sounds from all the folding bits!

Its an easy job to do so don't be put off. Just make sure you check all seat belt mountings by pulling on them hard and noting any movement, flex, or distorsion to the bolt/washer/car.
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Looking forward to seeing this completed - I really can't justify the expense of the "lock and fold" seats from Exmoor, but I do need something to stop the rug-rats rattling around in the load space.

Ian.
 
coolkrio said:
i dont have seatbelts on my side facing seats, as far as im aware they are not needed.
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I think it depends on the age of the car...

If they are not there they don't have to be worn. If they are they do!

As for side lap belts working or not?!?!?? Think they can do a lot of damage to body if in a bad crash. But no more than going through the windscreen and down the road!

In a mild crash who knows.

I suppose it depends if you want to clean 2 halfs of a person out the car or replace a windscreen! LOL :D

(Assuming they didn't smack you on back of head and kill you!)

I would say it depends on 1) How oftern they are used and 2) Who uses them.

I go in my mates with side seat off roading no worries, if it was our young one I would maybe surgest he sits in the front and the passanger in the back with me!
 
That's settled then - no seatbelts for me. Mine's an '87, used to be a truck cab apparently and now a county hardtop, so there's definitely nothing to show seat belts have ever been used there...that's one job out of the way...
 
Hi Carl

I fitted 4 folding seats to my 88 a few years ago. It's bolts back and bottom, which can be done by yourself using a mole wrench (mole wrench on the top - it turns until it hits the body then stops...!). However, much easier if you can get Lucy to do it! Failing that bring it down the road - I'm about all weekend and am willing to hold a spanner for you! ANd - it's actually going to be dry this weekend!

Talking of self tappers - I always find that they work loose on Land Rovers - I always use a bolt if possible.

Seatbelts - as I said today, lap belts not the best in a crash - but I work on the theory that my passenger may be damaged in a crash - but at least they don't fly forward and damage me as well! I spread the load when I bolted in the lap belts with around 6" of steel rod per bolt.

H.
 
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